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my suggestions of seeking knowledge.
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RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge.
(March 18, 2018 at 9:44 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Scientific observations are correct and can be certain knowledge.
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Quote:The method of hypothesis, observation, then conclusion, can never yield certainty as it's circular in reasoning, and all it can do it create a working model that we can work with in the real world.
This guy named "mystic" disagrees, up above.

Quote:However like I said there is potentially more hypothesis that work with the data and that data confirms in the same way, it's just due to various factors that have nothing to do with science or reason, we don't entertain them.

It's even more problematic when we make it so the explanation or hypothesis has to be the most simplified version that goes with the data, only that later, we learn complexities that cannot be solved with the simplicity, and hence either stay put for a while on it or eventually learn to move from it.

And it's highly problematic, when we just briefly survey data, and don't really investigate the details of the theory and see if it stands to scrutiny.

As well, usually there is the over all data that works with the model, and it's edge cases that really screw it up.

And of course if you don't look at the edge cases or the details, it will seem true.
Cool story, but.......?  

I mean, if you agree that science can provide certain knowledge, the root of the disagreement between us is dead.  You do think, contrary to your previous assertions, that science is capable of certainty and have no problems accepting provisional certitude or conditionals as meaningfully certain.
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my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 15, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Angrboda - March 15, 2018 at 8:07 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by WinterHold - March 16, 2018 at 5:00 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by drfuzzy - March 15, 2018 at 8:41 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by brewer - March 15, 2018 at 9:29 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Succubus - March 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by chimp3 - March 15, 2018 at 10:51 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2018 at 9:14 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by ignoramus - March 15, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2018 at 12:06 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by chimp3 - March 16, 2018 at 12:08 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by robvalue - March 16, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Succubus - March 16, 2018 at 2:37 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by brewer - March 16, 2018 at 7:14 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Ravenshire - March 16, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by chimp3 - March 16, 2018 at 12:15 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by ignoramus - March 16, 2018 at 2:19 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by ignoramus - March 16, 2018 at 3:18 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by robvalue - March 16, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by WinterHold - March 16, 2018 at 5:50 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Whateverist - March 16, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by drfuzzy - March 16, 2018 at 8:34 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by LastPoet - March 16, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by LastPoet - March 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2018 at 12:32 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2018 at 12:48 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by MysticKnight - March 18, 2018 at 12:55 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: my suggestions of seeking knowledge. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2018 at 1:36 pm

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