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Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
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RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan
(December 5, 2018 at 9:20 am)Cherub786 Wrote:
(December 5, 2018 at 8:54 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Are you sure that you will be among the devout? you will approach hell, just like verse 71 of Sura 19 says. I mean it's a decree from God.
Saying that you will fair against that day is very strange. Do you think you are God?  how do you know that you won't be picked to burn in hell? nobody will know until that day comes.

Are you sure you're an Arab?

Let's look at 19:71:

وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا
The accurate translation is not "every single one of you will approach it" but "None from among you except will come to it"
Minkum, with the suffix "kum" that is second person plural. And "min" is the preposition among.
So those in the category being addressed will all come to it, and all of humanity is not being addressed in the Verse as the context of the passage makes clear.

Furthermore, coming to it or approaching it does not mean entering it. The verb وَرَدَ warada means "he came" as opposed to دَخَلَ dakhala which means "he entered".
The verse is classically understood to be referring to the Siraat bridge which everyone will cross, but only those that are Believers saved by the Royalty will be saved and cross it successfully while the unbelievers will not be able to cross.

I don't remember I have mentioned to you that I'm an Arab.

The translation I posted is the literal, most accurate translation to English; I post below more translations by different scholars:




(December 5, 2018 at 9:36 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: [Image: catfight11.jpg]

It's not me who treats religion as a personal possession.
Observe and you might realize the reasons why many Muslims are so humiliated and ruled by dictators. That bite in your meme is a bonesaw in reality, or a Chemical missile strike against children.

It has nothing to do with the Quran. But everything to do with personal motives.
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Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Minimalist - December 3, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Fireball - December 4, 2018 at 12:43 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Deesse23 - December 4, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 4, 2018 at 6:53 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Brian37 - December 4, 2018 at 8:20 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2018 at 11:58 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 7:08 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 8:15 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 7:16 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Angrboda - December 4, 2018 at 7:44 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 8:19 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 4, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 4, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 5:47 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 5, 2018 at 8:54 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 5, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 10:17 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 5, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 10:45 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by WinterHold - December 5, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 4, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Fireball - December 4, 2018 at 9:31 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Angrboda - December 4, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by Cherub786 - December 5, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Kathleen Madigan on Afghanistan - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2018 at 11:02 am



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