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The dawn of civilization
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RE: The dawn of civilization
(December 14, 2018 at 6:31 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 14, 2018 at 6:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, not really the 'end of story'.

Could you explain why Ogg would make all the preparations to go out and hunt lions, a pack animal notorious for being heavy in the teeth, claws, and poor disposition departments, when it would be so much easier to snare unsuspecting herbivores?  You know, dig a pitfall, let the animal trap itself, and then drop rocks on it til it stops wiggling.

Boru

Multiple reasons, but the big one would be because those carnivores will eat the herbivores that you want to eat.  You'll have to control the population.  If not the population of carnivores will steadily increase, and the herbivores rapidly decrease, then you might really have problems then. You could become the new food source by default or those carnivores might see you as disrupting their territory and become aggressive as to try to protect themselves.

"Easier" isn't always what's best.

Basic population dynamics:  population of predators never outstrip populations of prey, it isn't mathematically possible (see Malthus).  And given the relatively sparse populations of humans in the late Paleolithic, it's hard to imagine that humans were a serious competitor with other predatory species (varied diets and all that).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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The dawn of civilization - by Agnostico - December 13, 2018 at 12:19 pm
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