(May 15, 2019 at 5:12 pm)prhill Wrote:You never linked me to any sources.(May 15, 2019 at 4:04 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Excuses? Give me some links and I'd be happy to look at them. On one end you say they are atheists, but then you say they believe in supernatural beings? Yet, the CoS website states explicitly that Satanic philosophy has nothing to do with supernatural beings. I don't know how else I can explain it to you, Satanism is an atheistic philosophy, period. And even if some members of the CoS said they believe in summoning demons, I'd highly doubt the sincerity of those claims. You seem to miss over and over the tongue-in-cheek sort of showmanship often employed by Satanists - it's something LaVey did frequently, even though he was undoubtedly an atheist.
If you're not even willing to admit you may be overlooking that, this conversation doesn't need to continue. I know several people, in real life, who consider themselves Satanists and I've never heard anyone say they believe in demons or summoning spirits. Sounds like nonsense to me.
That some author refers to obscure occult practices in France as "Satanism" doesn't make it so. Satanism was not a thing until LaVey created it as a philosophy. I don't know how many times I can repeat this. No one before LaVey called themselves "Satanists." It was a term that was used similar to "Pagans" or "heretics," almost exclusively by Christians.
I gave you ALL the sources and these members are TOP ranking members who believe in magic healing people, killing people, making girls lust for them, they believe in spirit guides, demons, reincarnation, pseudoscience. Facts are facts. Ignoring them does not make them not true.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.