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Active shooter in NZ
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RE: Active shooter in NZ
(March 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, they do not.

Humans go to war just like other mammals group and compete against each other, but we are not talking about war. 

Sociopaths and psychopaths can be quite sane, and disturbed at the same time. It is still a form of mental defect. 

No, he did not choose to go to war. He most likely had a lifetime of his own failures and was looking to make himself important and famous. He chose to look for an excuse to make everyone as miserable as he was You don't need a religion to do that. Dillon Harris and Eric Clibold(sp) the Colombine killers were quite sane, not terrorists, but were disturbed and looking to make a mark. 

He is a terrorist for sure, but the same sense of self importance and wanting to make a mark, is the same thing that the Colimbine killers did. 

The Boston Bomber brothers also "went to war". But the truth really was the older brother was blaming his loss of his kick boxing licence on society, when the truth was he lost it for domestic abuse. You can argue that he hid behind religion as an excuse, so in that sense he was a terrorist. But the real reason he did it was because he was a abuser who got caught and lost his ability to earn a living in that sport. 

I highly suspect this guy in NZ simply had a string of failures in his life, and used clung to white nationalism because those bigots made him feel important.

It still takes a disturbed person to murder anyone for any reason outside self defense.

He thought that "the west is witnessing a new Muslim expansion via immigration"; aka an invasion, war:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/201...9d101862b5

Quote:Various historical references to conflicts involving Muslims are also written on weaponry, including the name Charles Martel.

White supremacists credit Martel “with saving Europe by defeating an invading Muslim force at the Battle of Tours in 734,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors such groups.

His weapons were decorated with anti-Muslim writings; the man was a racist, xenophobic bitch who thought that he's a European crusader living in the 1400s.
I bet he had a knight fetish.

This is a sane asshole. This is an extreme rightist, we know another copy from him in America's White House right now with a name ends with Trump.

This totally sane, racist garbage and his likes were even anticipated in the various reports in the past years about the scary rise of the right wing.


Right. Atlass, this fucker n NZ was very sane. He was not insane like the college Virginia Tech Shooter, if you don't know look him up. That shooter didn't know what reality was. But like I said one can be mentally ill, and sane at the same time. You can be mentally ill and still know right from wrong. Insanity is a far deeper form of mental illness to to the point they cannot see reality and cant tell right from wrong. Medically speaking, that degree of mental illness would be if I claimed you were a butterfly who had the nuclear codes selling them to Kim Jong Un whom sent me secret messages through  my bar stool.

He was sane, but still disturbed. 

Most people do not understand that there is a huge difference between "mental illness" and "insanity". Mentally ill people can be quite sane and know right from wrong. Most mentally ill people are very sane. Insanity is a very different and deeper form of mental defect.

I suffer from anxiety and depression myself. Those are forms of mental illness. But I am also sane, and also have no desire to physically harm other humans.

I can say in my early life though, that if the wrong person had gotten a hold of me, not knowing what I know now, I could have very easily been suckered into doing horrible things. Just like this NZ guy and white Christian bigots, or those who join Isis probably do the same thing for the same reasons. Their lives suck, they don't have economic or family or relationship security. Those are people who can be very easily conned into taking their frustrations out on others.

And trust me Atlass. I have been pissed at Trump for years, long before he even ran that fucker was vilifying Obama. I hate him vilifying Mexicans and Hispanics and his calls for Muslim bans. I also hate him vilifying his own intel and the free press.

And I am sickened by his lack of blunt and strong condemnation of these events. But that same fucker also refused to condemn the murder of a white woman in Charlottesville  Va without a bullshit the bullshit qualifier, "There is blame on both sides". The KKK and Neo Nazis are not "fine people".

(March 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: He thought that "the west is witnessing a new Muslim expansion via immigration"; aka an invasion, war:
The jews muslims will not replace us!

Quote:His weapons were decorated with anti-Muslim writings; the man was a racist, xenophobic bitch who thought that he's a European crusader living in the 1400s.
I bet he had a knight fetish.

This is a sane asshole. This is an extreme rightist, we know another copy from him in America's White House right now with a name ends with Trump.

This totally sane, racist garbage and his likes were even anticipated in the various reports in the past years about the scary rise of the right wing.

Apparently, he was smitten with the orange overlord.   Imagine that, lol.

^^^^^^ This this right here is what is really important.

Trump, just like any other world leader, are someone those they rule over see as authority. This isn't the same as a private citizen saying the same things. When a world leader speaks, people listen, so it isn't as simple as that leader chalking it up to saying " I am not responsible for that nut."

The Saudi Royals, Bibi, Iran's Imams, Putin and Trump all speak to their populations.
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Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by ignoramus - March 14, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fireball - March 14, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Sal - March 15, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 12:36 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 14, 2019 at 11:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 11:29 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 5:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 5:39 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2019 at 2:34 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 6:08 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by DodosAreDead - March 15, 2019 at 6:29 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 6:49 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Nakara - March 15, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:19 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 6:54 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 6:59 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 7:05 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by ignoramus - March 15, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 7:56 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 8:38 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 8:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Figbash - March 15, 2019 at 8:13 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 8:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 8:37 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 9:06 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 9:52 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 10:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 15, 2019 at 10:54 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 12:47 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 2:09 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by chimp3 - March 15, 2019 at 8:32 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:51 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by brewer - March 15, 2019 at 11:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 15, 2019 at 1:01 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by tackattack - March 15, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 12:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 2:41 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:12 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 5:05 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 5:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 7:22 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:30 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:05 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:33 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 16, 2019 at 12:55 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 16, 2019 at 1:24 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 16, 2019 at 7:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:47 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 15, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fireball - March 15, 2019 at 10:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 15, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 16, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 15, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 16, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 9:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 5:52 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 17, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 4:00 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 17, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 17, 2019 at 1:49 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 17, 2019 at 5:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 17, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 17, 2019 at 7:17 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 8:04 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 18, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 19, 2019 at 4:22 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 8:18 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 17, 2019 at 8:43 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 9:00 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by downbeatplumb - March 17, 2019 at 9:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 1:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 1:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 17, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 17, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 18, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 18, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 17, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 18, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Rev. Rye - March 17, 2019 at 9:21 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 9:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 17, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by robvalue - March 18, 2019 at 11:59 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 18, 2019 at 1:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2019 at 12:29 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by robvalue - March 18, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 18, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 18, 2019 at 5:49 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 18, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 18, 2019 at 2:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 18, 2019 at 4:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 19, 2019 at 12:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 18, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 21, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 19, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 19, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2019 at 3:37 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 21, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 21, 2019 at 7:00 pm

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