RE: Active shooter in NZ
March 17, 2019 at 6:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2019 at 7:03 pm by fredd bear.)
Just a minor point, apart from the howlers contained in what's his names Quranic notion of justice, and fatuous claims about deterrents, 'blood money' seems to have slipped his mind.--This has a Q'uranic base, so it can be said to operate in countries which use Sharia Law.
"In Islamic law, victims of crime are recognized as having rights. The victim has a say in how the criminal is to be punished. In general, Islamic law calls for murderers to face the death penalty. However, the victim's heirs may choose to excuse the murderer from the death penalty in exchange for monetary damages. The murderer will still be sentenced by a judge, possibly to a lengthy prison term, but the death penalty will be taken off the table.
This principle is known as Diyyah, which is unfortunately known in English as "blood money." It is more appropriately referred to as "victim's compensation." While most commonly associated with death penalty cases, Diyyah payments can also be made for lesser crimes, and for acts of negligence (ex. falling asleep at the wheel of a car and causing an accident). The concept is similar to the practice in many Western courts, where the state prosecutor files a criminal case against the defendant, but the victim or family members may also sue in civil court for damages. However, in Islamic law, if the victim or victim's representatives accept monetary payment, it is considered an act of forgiveness which in turn lessens the criminal penalty.
https://www.thoughtco.com/blood-money-in-islam-2004418
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Iraq national football players. Click image to expand.
Iraq national football players
An Iraqi soccer goalie was accidentally shot to death by a policeman on Monday during a post-game celebration, the second player shot in Iraq that day. The goalie’s family has requested that the policeman pay “blood money” for the death of their son. How do blood-money payments work?
Not that differently from Western damage settlements. In the Muslim world, the tradition of blood-money payments, or diyya, comes from the Quran, in which it is set out as a more humane alternative to the practice of eye-for-an-eye retaliation: “A believer should not kill another believer, unless it happens unintentionally; whoever does so unintentionally must pay diyya to the family.” Under Islamic tradition, the family of a murder victim can also choose to accept a blood-money payment in lieu of the death sentence, jail time, or lashing that might otherwise be meted out. In practice, diyya works like an out-of-court settlement in a Western tort case, and its payment is often more prosaic than the term blood money implies. Foreigners who plan to drive a car in Islamic countries are often encouraged to purchase coverage for potential blood-money claims as part of their regular auto insurance.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009...-work.html
ADDENDUM: Just thought of this. I hope YONADAV will correct me if I've misunderstood.:I once had a discussion with a Rabbi at an online Yeshiva, specifically about 'an eye for an eye' an the apparent contradiction of "Justice is mine saith theLord, I will repay"
The rabbi explained that there is no contradiction because Mosaic law is based on compensation, not revenge. Further, that revenge is un Jewish. I mention this because a great deal of the Q'uran, including Sharia law has been lifted from the Torah. (Atlas mentioned "an eye for an eye" .)
"In Islamic law, victims of crime are recognized as having rights. The victim has a say in how the criminal is to be punished. In general, Islamic law calls for murderers to face the death penalty. However, the victim's heirs may choose to excuse the murderer from the death penalty in exchange for monetary damages. The murderer will still be sentenced by a judge, possibly to a lengthy prison term, but the death penalty will be taken off the table.
This principle is known as Diyyah, which is unfortunately known in English as "blood money." It is more appropriately referred to as "victim's compensation." While most commonly associated with death penalty cases, Diyyah payments can also be made for lesser crimes, and for acts of negligence (ex. falling asleep at the wheel of a car and causing an accident). The concept is similar to the practice in many Western courts, where the state prosecutor files a criminal case against the defendant, but the victim or family members may also sue in civil court for damages. However, in Islamic law, if the victim or victim's representatives accept monetary payment, it is considered an act of forgiveness which in turn lessens the criminal penalty.
https://www.thoughtco.com/blood-money-in-islam-2004418
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Iraq national football players. Click image to expand.
Iraq national football players
An Iraqi soccer goalie was accidentally shot to death by a policeman on Monday during a post-game celebration, the second player shot in Iraq that day. The goalie’s family has requested that the policeman pay “blood money” for the death of their son. How do blood-money payments work?
Not that differently from Western damage settlements. In the Muslim world, the tradition of blood-money payments, or diyya, comes from the Quran, in which it is set out as a more humane alternative to the practice of eye-for-an-eye retaliation: “A believer should not kill another believer, unless it happens unintentionally; whoever does so unintentionally must pay diyya to the family.” Under Islamic tradition, the family of a murder victim can also choose to accept a blood-money payment in lieu of the death sentence, jail time, or lashing that might otherwise be meted out. In practice, diyya works like an out-of-court settlement in a Western tort case, and its payment is often more prosaic than the term blood money implies. Foreigners who plan to drive a car in Islamic countries are often encouraged to purchase coverage for potential blood-money claims as part of their regular auto insurance.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009...-work.html
ADDENDUM: Just thought of this. I hope YONADAV will correct me if I've misunderstood.:I once had a discussion with a Rabbi at an online Yeshiva, specifically about 'an eye for an eye' an the apparent contradiction of "Justice is mine saith theLord, I will repay"
The rabbi explained that there is no contradiction because Mosaic law is based on compensation, not revenge. Further, that revenge is un Jewish. I mention this because a great deal of the Q'uran, including Sharia law has been lifted from the Torah. (Atlas mentioned "an eye for an eye" .)
