[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!

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That's me out, then.  I have no desire to learn Arabic.  As for my rights, I judge the Quran to be no better (and no worse) than any other holy book. It's really not for you to determine what rights I do or do not have.

I already said you have the whole orientalist literature - which is skeptical of any Islamic claim - to look at. And until you do that you only have the right to withhold judgment, just as you do with the existence of God.

And for what it's worth, I strongly suspect that the 'You can't understand the Quran unless you read it in Arabic' argument is just so much rubbish, a convenient way for Muslims to get the rest of us to accept that the Quran really doesn't mean what it says.  If the argument were valid, then Christians would be required to read the NT in Koine Greek and Aramaic, and the OT in Hebrew.

Your suspicions are understandable given the seriousness of the matter. The next (rational) step is to do some homework. Also I still can't believe you allow yourselves to put the Qur'an and the O/N Testament hand in hand. The original sayings of Jesus are long gone, completely lost and scattered before even the first Council of nicaea.

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So the English translations muslims quote at us as evidence of how wonderful the book is are meaningless (beyond our opinions to the effect anywat) because they’re not in Arabic?

Why bother then?

If these quotes are meant to convey the aesthetical aspect of the original text, then yes they don't say much. Again you can only defer to experts' judgment on this book.