RE: Time to embrace Islam!
December 10, 2019 at 8:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2019 at 8:08 pm by EgoDeath.)
(December 10, 2019 at 7:28 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: How droll. Klorophyl is merely promoting yet another version of the imaginary sky fairy. No evidence, no demonstrable existence, all assertion. He kind of sounds like a kid that recently caught the disease of religion.
The particular religion matters not a jot. They all come across with the enthusiasm of youth and new found belief in their chosen deity and a burning urge to convince everyone else that they are right. .
And this is sort of what I've been hoping to hash out with him... Eventually trying to get him to realize that his arguments are the same as any other theists, with little to no deviation outside of replacing "Jesus" with "Mohammed." It's no surprise how similar the arguments are; I mean, how much difference is there between Islam, Judaism and Christianity, when you strip away the superfluous parts? I mean, certainly, the traditions, culture and positions in the world have become quite different in 2019, but are they really that different at the core? I'd argue that they are not.
Especially when you're arguing for a personal, Abrahamic god... how much different can your argument get? It's really unfortunate to see people quote nonsense like "the prime mover" and "the teleological argument," which are these sort of convoluted, overly complex ways that so-called "sophisticated theologians" use to say "No one created god" and "god designed things." It's bizarre.
(December 10, 2019 at 8:02 pm)maxolla Wrote: Do you have any evidence for Abraham Lincoln? How can you be certain of anything at all?
Oh wow.
The difference is there are mounds and mounds of evidence to account for the existence of Lincoln. It would be interesting though, if there was one book that talked about the existence of Lincoln, and that's all we had in the whole wide world to tell us that Lincoln was real, and when asked about how we know Lincoln was real, we replied, "Because the book tells us so!" And if asked why we trust the book, "Because Lincoln said we should!"
Unfortunately, that's not quite how it works with most historical figures, especially ones from such recent (relatively) times.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
