RE: Time to embrace Islam!
December 11, 2019 at 4:06 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2019 at 4:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
To be blunt, all "serious historians" of jesus refute the existence of every jesus..except for their own.
The historical writings mentioned were not contemporaneous accounts, or accounts of any jesus, but accounts of people who believed in a jesus, and what they believed. Just as I could recount for you the existence and beliefs of a group of pagans in central florida. There is no "in addition to" here, because these are categorically not what was asked of you. Nor are the gospels in any sense, at all..such accounts as were requested - and no "serious nt scholar" will ever tell you otherwise.
There's this amusing thing where believers hang their hats on lines like "all scholars agree that" - without looking into exactly what they agree on. Turns out, they all agree that everyone is wrong about a historical jesus. The second bit, about the gospels being contemporaneous historical accounts..that wasn't a misunderstanding, you just made it up. We've known they were no such thing since before we chose what those gospels would be. They were selected for their theological content, narrative continuity, and constituent popularity - not their historical value.
This is perfectly understandable, they were creating a demi-god..not writing news reports from the front.
The historical writings mentioned were not contemporaneous accounts, or accounts of any jesus, but accounts of people who believed in a jesus, and what they believed. Just as I could recount for you the existence and beliefs of a group of pagans in central florida. There is no "in addition to" here, because these are categorically not what was asked of you. Nor are the gospels in any sense, at all..such accounts as were requested - and no "serious nt scholar" will ever tell you otherwise.
There's this amusing thing where believers hang their hats on lines like "all scholars agree that" - without looking into exactly what they agree on. Turns out, they all agree that everyone is wrong about a historical jesus. The second bit, about the gospels being contemporaneous historical accounts..that wasn't a misunderstanding, you just made it up. We've known they were no such thing since before we chose what those gospels would be. They were selected for their theological content, narrative continuity, and constituent popularity - not their historical value.
This is perfectly understandable, they were creating a demi-god..not writing news reports from the front.
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