(December 11, 2019 at 6:35 pm)maxolla Wrote:(December 11, 2019 at 5:57 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Really? I was going to list a bucket of Messiah figures from the period, but decided to leave it at just one for now. The Levant at the time was a hotbed of wandering Jewish Rabbi's. They were ten-a-penny.
Yet you are here arguing for the historicity of jesus because somehow you DO have time for that load of crap.
Mo and the handhi bhendhi ghandi are documented figures. Jesus is not.
Sorry, no dodging allowed. He who makes an affirmative claim bears the burden of proof for said claim. I actually making an affirmative claim. I do not believe in any god/gods, nor any prophets, messiahs, jesuses, or any of it. Thgus I bear the burden of proof for that affirmative claim. What evidence have I? Well, I do not believe in any god/gods, nor any prophets, messiahs, jesuses, or any of it. My burden is met in full. Now how about YOUR burden of proof for YOUR claims?
That is not atheism. Atheism claims to NOT believe in any god. I am perfectly comfortable to agree that it is possible that somehow there MIGHT be a god, but nobody has yet demonstrated that there IS a god, despite thousands of claimed gods. Not a single one has been demonstrated to exist ever. Not once in the entirety of human history.
Look at your own god. If you could demonstrate it to be real, then I would accept the evidence. But you cannot. Because you have none.
You do know that it was, at that time, a largely orally transmitted superstition, right? Are you suggesting that in the time of Mo, people never told stories? Really?
Ask yourself when was the koran first written.
Sorry, no dodging allowed. He who makes an affirmative claim bears the burden of proof for said claim. I actually making an affirmative claim. I do not believe in any god/gods, nor any prophets, messiahs, jesuses, or any of it. Thgus I bear the burden of proof for that affirmative claim. What evidence have I? Well, I do not believe in any god/gods, nor any prophets, messiahs, jesuses, or any of it. My burden is met in full. Now how about YOUR burden of proof for YOUR claims?
My proof is I believe that Jesus existed and exists based on the evidence I have seen.
Burden of proof doesn’t work that way and you know it.
Non belief is not a claim, it’s a lack of belief.
I also don’t believe in bigfoot, Martians, or Sid the Yellow Space Sponge. I’m not required to disprove these things.
You make a positive claim, “there is a god”, and we don’t accept personal revelations as proof.
Dying to live, living to die.