[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!

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Argumentum ad ignorandum. Do you really think that because you cannot understand things that there must be a simple answer? Really?

What about argumentum ad shutup-dum and read carefully what's written next time?

I don't think so because I never claimed so. One thing you all have in common is this sick urge to label religious people, as if everything we say will fall into some obvious logical fallacy so you can have a good laugh with your fellow devout scientistic ignorants. I already explained in great details how Islamic theology is a bit more complicated and makes much more sense than the circularities in christian literature, which are there because of the impossible core beliefs it tries to defend like trinity. Core islamic beliefs do not entail any of that and so you're required to do much more homework before sitting comfortably in you chair and claim you got our religion all figured out by using such a disgustingly confident tone.

I was merely suggesting a workable definition of the god we're talking about, I never mentioned a proof of existence or simplicity, and I was replying to EgoDeath who will understand better what I wrote than you did, since you're obviously not following what we were discussing anymore.
On the issue of proving god, I said pages ago that scripture is the only way to go, philosophical arguments are by their nature inaccessible to the layman who cannot follow a formal argument, so they must be unnecessary/secondary to some much more accessible way of reaching this kind of truths.

Holy shit. Rocket science and brain surgery and computer science should be "simple" just to suit your lack of understanding? Really?

What does brain surgery have to do with defining God? Making such comparisons only means that you need one, nothing more.

It is long established that your god is none of those.

"you god is .." blabla is an unintelligible sentence until you define the god you're talking about.

How odd. I  believe in those things that are demonstrably true. You desire to believe in whatever you find to be interesting. To you. Do you not see a problem with that?

Who mentioned belief anyway? It's a damn definition we're trying to agree upon, nothing more.

What use is theology? It does nothing, achieves nothing, says nothing, does nothing. If theology is to be believed, then YOUR crapfest of a god is nonsense. So you reject theology.

Yet also embrace it as is convenient. Funny that.

Clearly you didn't read much about the subject, much less of the Islamic type.

Yet all of them are the same, engaging in the abuse of children for the purposes of indoctrination. And I have two children of my own. I can witness it happening in real time. Without my active intervention, one by one, they have come to me to ask "It's a big load of bollox, isn't it?" to which I replied "Yup. But you had to learn that for yourself. I cannot learn that for you."

To me, you are no different from my children believing in santa years ago. It is the same gullible faith.

I never told them that santa was not real. I actually perpetuated the santa myth. Because it was a comfortable myth. But myth it was. This year, yet again, we will play the game. Santa will fill the socks, and we will all make believe that it is real. Because it is a harmless bit of fun.

But your god is not a harmless bit of fun. Your god is a murderous bastard who butchers people on a whim. Your god is not moral. And you know it.

It's pathetic to start accusing us of believing in mythology since we're only discussing premature stuff, like agreeing on definitions and surpassing common stereotypes and misconceptions of Islam. Children who believe in Santa Claus have a much more respectable epistemic position than your almost militant scientism, religions are to you all the same  yet we all know you didn't read a jack sh# about Islam aside from a couple of false claims you can resort to in this kind of discussions whenever you feel too lazy to do actual research.