RE: Time to embrace Islam!
December 18, 2019 at 6:33 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2019 at 6:38 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 18, 2019 at 6:18 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Apostasy in the Quran...
3:90
4:91
9:66
16:106
Fuck off with your lies.
First I would like to thank you for the F word, summarizes the kind of high-quality morality system atheists came up with after leaving religion.
Now let's read together the verses you cited:
3:90 : Indeed, those who reject the message after their belief and then increase in disbelief - never will their [claimed] repentance be accepted, and they are the ones astray.
Where is killing in the verse? Is Astray synonymous to murder apostates in some dictionary in your attic?
4:91 : You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those - We have made for you against them a clear authorization.
The verse specifically says " if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands" which means they are enemy combatants. Apostates huh?
9:66 : Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon one faction of you - We will punish another faction because they were criminals.
We will punish refers to God. Where are the apostates being executed in the verse? Did you imagine them?
16:106 : Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment;
Great punishment is divine punishment according to all the tafsirs out there.
And there you go, proof that you are a misinformed, dishonest and pathetic liar.
(December 18, 2019 at 6:09 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:(December 18, 2019 at 4:11 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: A child is biologically between birth and puberty, Aisha reportedly reached puberty at the age of 9.
So your best argument is that it wasn't technically pedophilia? Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed? How could your "god" have failed to mention to Mo to not screw 10 year-olds?
Aisha consented to the marriage, she wasn't a child, what else do you need to stop this outdated presentism fallacy? Did she need your consent or what?
Even Muhammad's most sworn enemies didn't see his marriage as some moral deficiency they can take advantage of to undermine his prophecy claims.
(December 18, 2019 at 6:09 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: If your "prophet" didn't know morality that applies to the 21st century then what's the good of him?
What makes you think the 21st century morality - which is an implicit admission that you are a moral relativist, hence your right to even object evaporates into thin air - is the gold standard against which we get to measure anything done in the past?