RE: The code that is DNA
December 29, 2019 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2019 at 5:07 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(December 29, 2019 at 1:26 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(December 29, 2019 at 1:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ffs, John. Your religious views, next to your handle, state “Christian”. So, if you don’t accept evolution by natural selection as the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth, which can be easily inferred from the content of your posts on the subject, then it is perfectly reasonable for me or anyone else to also infer that you have an alternative explanation in mind; one that you must think fits the facts better than evolution. That you prefer not to foster a positive case for your belief to a forum full of atheists (I don’t blame you; you’d get hammered) only demonstrates your lack of confidence in the merits of any such argument. Very telling. If you wish people to stop making inferences about whether or not you believe god is responsible for the diversity of life on earth, then tell the truth. I see you skipped over my question to you about the horseshoe crab.
I don't mind you making inferences, just don't use those inferences as strawman. The processes of evolution aren't even at odds with Christianity, since creation is concerned with origins, not what happens after; evolution is concerned with what happens after, not origins.
Correct. Some Christians believe evolution in its entirety. Some believe that god initially created all the various species, but that micro evolution can happen naturally within species. And, some reject evolution altogether, and believe in the literal creation story. That’s why, when I have discussions with Christians regarding evolution, it’s important as a debate partner for me to know what that person’s beliefs are. Do you know why it’s important to know your interlocutor’s position in a debate, John? Because, if your position is that a god played some role in the creation of diverse life on earth, then the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate god’s mechanisms of action with evidence and sound reasoning. If you believe speciation is impossible, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate which biological mechanisms prevent speciation. If you’re simply attempting to pick at existing evolutionary biology rather than making a actual case for your own position, then your argument is fallacious (as I pointed out to Yukon above), and we MUST address that fallacy before the discussion can continue. So, which category of Christian do you fall into with regard to evolution, John? So, we can prevent anymore strawmen going forward.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.