The code that is DNA

[The Valkyrie]

In my experience, theists often have quite varied, and sometimes mutually exclusive definitions of god, so before we go forward you should probably clarify. What is your definition of god?

My definition would be : an eternal, omniscient, omnipotent being, which is probably a definition most theists can agree on.

No, I wouldn’t. How could I? If I have zero evidence that cars are designed, or how they’re designed, how could I rationally justify reaching that conclusion?

Oh, so basically, if we erase factories from the picture, you would think cars were just assembled by some evolutionary sleight of hand process?

Their very existence in an orderly fashion fully justifies the conclusion, a car seat perfectly fit to the human body strongly implies the car seat is specifically for me. In any case I don't need to meet all the staff in the assembly line and ask them what every piece does to know my car was consciously assembled.
And also, how they're designed is completely irrelevant, the minute details are useful for the designer alone, not the user.
Similarly I don't need to know the exact process of why my body is the way it is to invoke a designer. Evolution or not, I can see an extremely complex final product before my eyes, and I don't need more than that.

Let’s take your example a step further. What if everything in the universe was made of cars? Without any contrast, could you still be confident that the universe was designed?

Yes, I can be confident of that. I am certain no car made itself into existence, it has no reason in itself, nor the whole observable universe, and the fact that it contains complex objects such as cars naturally warrants a designer.

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A mechanical device is obviously designed, a biological one, especially one as flawed as humans, not so much.

Why is it obvious in the first case but not in the second? What does mechanical entail that biological doesn't?

Even if there was a first cause, it doesn’t mean it was a god or your god.  It doesn’t even necessarily denote an intelligence.

Yeah well, we didn't get there yet.

Everything we see in nature and the lab indicates a natural order to things that came about over billions of years, despite what books of myth say.

Do you really see in nature and the lab something that supposedly happened through billions of years? And during your finite lifetime?

Because one is alive and one is not. Simple, huh?

Yes, we can see something that occurred over billions of years. We can trace history back through fossils. For instance we have almost a complete fossil history of whales.

I’ll ignore the “finite lifetime” quip as it sounds so close to “were you there?” Which is another creationist strawman.