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[Quranic Reflection]: There shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of religion
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: There shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of religion
(March 11, 2020 at 6:05 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 11, 2020 at 5:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Some of us get it from the Quran:

'Fight those who believe not in God and in the Last Day, and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, and who follow not the Religion of Truth among those who were given the Book, till they pay the jizyah with a willing hand, being humbled.' (9:29)

Jizyah here is clearly intended to humiliate non-Muslims.  Further, it makes it obvious that the tax isn't really paid 'with a willing hand' as Muslims are enjoined to fight non-Muslims until they pay up.

In other cultures, it's referred to as a 'protection racket'.

'No compulsion in religion', my bony Irish arse.

Boru

No; this was said the context of sura 9, which spoke clearly about the war that broke out between Muslims and the polytheists along with the Christian and Jewish tribes that were allies with the polytheists against Mohammed.

This is not a general verse like the one in the OP.

On the other hand, here is a general verse:

Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 190 )   Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.


Humiliation of enemies belongs to those who say "torture works" on T.V, or those who use waterboarding to humiliate their enemies.

The lengths you go to in order to show that Quran doesn't mean what it says makes me think you might be a closet Christian.  You're certainly behaving like one.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: There shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 11, 2020 at 6:18 am

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