RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 7, 2020 at 8:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2020 at 9:02 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 7, 2020 at 7:07 pm)brewer Wrote:(May 7, 2020 at 6:21 pm)WinterHold Wrote: *Mohammed -peace be upon him- has a man's perspective.
The night does cover the sun. I understand that "night" is a time.
From a man's pov, the night "does" cover the sun.
Then Mohammed's pov/perspective and accuracy is even more out of whack with the moon statement. The moon does not follow the sun. There are nights where the moon is not visible at all. (and not because of obstruction)
It doesn't speak about the special condition here; brewer. It speaks generally in an Analogous language.
(May 7, 2020 at 8:19 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:(May 7, 2020 at 5:31 pm)WinterHold Wrote: One interesting verse in the Quran says:
The sun shines during the day. Deepity. Except when it's cloudy.
Quote:The day does display the sun; defining it as the simple rotation of the earth to the direction facing the sun.
The indication that the sun does indeed become "not visible to us" at night is not explained through mysticism or fantasies -like the one's in Ancient Egyptian stories-, but actually through telling us that nothing makes the sun obvious to us but the "time" of the day.
Science when it's right.
(May 7, 2020 at 6:56 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If it doesn't look like that even to an ancient human; then probably you understood the text wrongly.
When the sun is covered by "the night", then we are speaking about an "Analogous language"; which is exactly the case with many verses in the Quran.
A turn of phrase when it's wrong.
Talk about your cherry picking. I think I prefer my cherries picked another way. The Quran is clearly saying that "And by the day when it displays it" means that Allah's flashing you during the day. During the night he "covers it up." "And by the earth and He who spread it" rather speaks for itself in this context.
For the sun to be visible for us, we need 2 things: the sun light and the atmosphere. Both of these compose "the day". Without atmosphere, the sun will blind us before we even know it's there.
That if you want to take the scientific route.