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In this comment in page 2 I did mention that kids should be excepted from the rule because they didn't satisfy the mental capability to grasp the consequence of their action:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-61009-p...pid1976065

‘Kid’ is a relative term. You know full well what I meant: Does the theft of a $10 magazine merit the same punishment as the theft of $100 billion dollars, a theft that destroys the lives and security of hundreds of thousands of people?

Let’s put the hand-chopping aside for the moment: should those two crimes be punished at the same level of ANY kind of punishment?

Boru

Personally, I would answer with "no".
But you neglect the role of the just system I mentioned before, there must be a vote between many people on the sentence as the Quran says:

Sura 42, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 38 )   And those who have responded to their lord and established prayer and whose affair is [determined by] consultation among themselves, and from what We have provided them, they spend.

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Thank you for your kind gesture.
Yes I read about that -UK normal cops being unarmed-. But still the SAS and counter terrorism are armed to the teeth.

It all falls to our different views about what works better for the victim of the criminal act; I already mentioned that in a just system this kind of penalty is a healer for the victim; and I gave an example with one losing their life savings to robbery and theft.

The society can crumble if theft is widespread, take Middle Eastern and African countries as an example, enduring such horrible crime can only be redeemed -in my view- via taking something dear from the criminal.

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 Uhhh.. what?

 Perhaps you should 'Back up' a step. You are aware that the British SAS are ARMY special froces, right?

As in... Military personel trained to a very high skill level that then specialize in certain feilds of which "Counter Terrorism" is but onew facet?

The British government. Instead of ARMING their police to deal with dangerous threats. Keep their police 'relativly' unarmed ( I think there are special 'FLying Squads' but I don't want to digress) and, instead, spend the time, effort and money to specially pick and train professoinals of their armed forces to help bolster their policing force.

Now.. if you then ALSO want to besmirch an armed force who can trace its history quite a distance into past history? That's fine. I'll let possible forum members set your misunderstanding about such straight.

So... It would seem that you DON'T know why British police are unarmed while American police generally are?

As for your remabling in relation  to 'Healing' and such? I am going to be generous and think that your handling of the English language is, sadly, not up to the task of translating yout thoughts.

Interesting.

Not at work.

Sorry, I meant "SCO19 Specialist Firearms Command"; despite their nerdy name they are armed to the teeth, so not SAS; sorry.

I understand English quite well, been using it since I was a child, so get over your imperialist ego will you? It's a second language for me so.....

I translate my thoughts quite well too, I am a programmer so we program in English if you don't know. As for the matter at hand, police in the UK is still armed but the arming is for special ranks like the SSFC, so the matter didn't change a lot: they are still armed because some criminals need to be terrorized.