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Islam
RE: Islam
(June 16, 2020 at 6:36 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(June 16, 2020 at 3:01 am)WinterHold Wrote: No it's cool, modern children love to play videogames that involve hacking, slashing and samurais.
Still confused about the difference between video games and reality?

(June 16, 2020 at 3:01 am)WinterHold Wrote: Samurais don't exist because the rifle was invented.
Wrong again. Dude, you are wrong about history almost every time, dont you notice?  Hilarious
The "caste" of Samurai became superfluous because of the unification under the Tokugawa shogunate in 1600 which meant: Total Military control directly in the hands of the Shogun, and no more (internal) wars. No more (independent) warlords and their (samurai) armies werent needed. The warrior caste (aka Samurai) had to transform slowly into a buerocracy. After the Meiji restoration they became completely irrelevant (not after giving a last resistance by doing an uprising), since the military power of the Shogun was taken away and transfered to the emperor himself.

Slghtly simplifiedd version, but should suffice for someone ignorant as you to do your homework and look up the details.
Not to mention a lot of Samurai were wiped out during hideyoshi toyotomi campaigns on the continent
"Change was inevitable"


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Islam - by WinterHold - May 16, 2020 at 8:23 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 16, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Islam - by Succubus#2 - May 16, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2020 at 8:52 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 16, 2020 at 8:59 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2020 at 9:09 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 18, 2020 at 9:34 am
RE: Islam - by brewer - May 18, 2020 at 10:54 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 18, 2020 at 11:27 am
RE: Islam - by Brian37 - May 16, 2020 at 9:15 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2020 at 9:18 pm
RE: Islam - by Nay_Sayer - May 16, 2020 at 10:42 pm
RE: Islam - by chimp3 - May 17, 2020 at 7:09 am
RE: Islam - by downbeatplumb - May 17, 2020 at 7:13 am
RE: Islam - by brewer - May 17, 2020 at 8:22 am
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - May 17, 2020 at 9:09 am
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RE: Islam - by arewethereyet - May 17, 2020 at 9:46 am
RE: Islam - by Mister Agenda - May 18, 2020 at 9:57 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 9:06 am
RE: Islam - by Duty - May 18, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 18, 2020 at 12:33 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 18, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 18, 2020 at 1:10 pm
RE: Islam - by Duty - May 18, 2020 at 12:59 pm
RE: Islam - by Brian37 - May 18, 2020 at 1:20 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 18, 2020 at 10:04 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - May 18, 2020 at 3:39 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 18, 2020 at 10:16 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 19, 2020 at 5:19 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 12:08 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 19, 2020 at 8:02 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 12:44 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 1:44 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 1:54 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 2:10 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2020 at 5:59 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 7:50 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2020 at 8:04 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 8:31 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 6:25 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:07 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2020 at 8:09 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 8:16 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:10 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 20, 2020 at 8:20 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 8:13 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:17 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 8:32 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 8:17 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:31 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 8:33 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2020 at 8:39 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 8:42 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2020 at 9:07 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 9:10 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:33 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:41 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 8:52 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 8:54 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 8:58 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2020 at 9:08 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 20, 2020 at 10:51 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 21, 2020 at 1:10 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 9:10 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 20, 2020 at 11:01 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 21, 2020 at 1:26 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 21, 2020 at 1:48 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 2:12 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 3:00 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 21, 2020 at 3:15 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 3:20 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 21, 2020 at 4:05 am
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 21, 2020 at 3:23 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 3:54 am
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 21, 2020 at 5:47 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 12:42 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 1:01 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 1:06 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 1:09 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 1:11 pm
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 4:08 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 4:18 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 4:21 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 4:32 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 21, 2020 at 4:39 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 4:37 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 5:11 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 4:44 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 5:20 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 5:52 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 1:12 pm
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RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 3:12 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 21, 2020 at 3:25 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2020 at 3:29 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 22, 2020 at 1:20 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - May 22, 2020 at 2:20 am
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 24, 2020 at 1:04 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 24, 2020 at 12:50 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2020 at 1:56 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 24, 2020 at 10:17 pm
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 24, 2020 at 10:33 pm
RE: Islam - by Succubus#2 - May 24, 2020 at 3:28 pm
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 24, 2020 at 7:09 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 1:19 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2020 at 3:32 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 21, 2020 at 4:16 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 21, 2020 at 4:35 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 21, 2020 at 7:43 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - May 22, 2020 at 12:36 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 22, 2020 at 2:28 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 22, 2020 at 6:04 am
RE: Islam - by Mister Agenda - May 22, 2020 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 22, 2020 at 2:27 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 24, 2020 at 2:33 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 24, 2020 at 6:28 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 24, 2020 at 11:08 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 25, 2020 at 1:05 am
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 25, 2020 at 3:42 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 25, 2020 at 5:15 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 25, 2020 at 7:06 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 25, 2020 at 7:17 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - June 16, 2020 at 1:50 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - June 16, 2020 at 3:01 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - June 16, 2020 at 3:36 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - June 16, 2020 at 6:36 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - June 16, 2020 at 5:09 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - May 25, 2020 at 3:10 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2020 at 4:04 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - May 25, 2020 at 6:47 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2020 at 7:03 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - May 25, 2020 at 8:08 am
RE: Islam - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 26, 2020 at 4:09 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - May 26, 2020 at 4:31 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2020 at 4:48 am
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 13, 2020 at 7:22 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 13, 2020 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 13, 2020 at 9:57 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 13, 2020 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam - by ido - July 13, 2020 at 10:57 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 13, 2020 at 11:06 pm
RE: Islam - by ido - July 13, 2020 at 11:10 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 13, 2020 at 11:09 pm
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 14, 2020 at 2:53 am
RE: Islam - by ido - July 14, 2020 at 11:18 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 13, 2020 at 10:06 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 13, 2020 at 10:25 pm
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 13, 2020 at 11:14 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 13, 2020 at 11:17 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 13, 2020 at 11:25 pm
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 13, 2020 at 11:26 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 13, 2020 at 11:35 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 13, 2020 at 11:41 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 13, 2020 at 11:45 pm
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 13, 2020 at 11:47 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 12:03 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 14, 2020 at 12:15 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 1:39 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 13, 2020 at 11:55 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 14, 2020 at 12:14 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 12:16 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 1:44 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 1:45 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 1:48 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 2:01 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 2:13 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 2:19 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 2:21 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 2:31 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 2:34 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 2:40 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 2:46 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 2:50 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 2:56 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 3:00 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 3:03 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 3:13 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 14, 2020 at 3:13 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 3:12 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 3:19 am
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 14, 2020 at 4:32 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 6:21 am
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 14, 2020 at 6:58 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 14, 2020 at 6:40 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 7:01 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 14, 2020 at 7:18 am
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 14, 2020 at 7:19 am
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 14, 2020 at 8:12 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 8:35 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 14, 2020 at 11:48 am
RE: Islam - by Foxaèr - July 14, 2020 at 7:04 am
RE: Islam - by Mister Agenda - July 14, 2020 at 9:32 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 10:28 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2020 at 10:36 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 11:14 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2020 at 11:58 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 14, 2020 at 2:32 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 14, 2020 at 2:48 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 2:56 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 14, 2020 at 5:57 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 5:25 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 5:38 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 5:40 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 6:58 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 7:25 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 14, 2020 at 7:33 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 15, 2020 at 9:46 am
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 15, 2020 at 10:03 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 15, 2020 at 12:09 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 3:11 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 15, 2020 at 3:55 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 5:11 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 15, 2020 at 5:24 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 5:36 am
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 15, 2020 at 8:38 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 8:45 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 9:03 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - July 15, 2020 at 9:36 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - July 15, 2020 at 12:21 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 15, 2020 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 3:36 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 15, 2020 at 3:42 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 4:09 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 15, 2020 at 4:32 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 4:56 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 15, 2020 at 6:08 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 6:00 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 6:45 pm
RE: Islam - by Porcupine - July 14, 2020 at 6:09 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 7:08 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 7:29 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 10:18 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 7:35 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 14, 2020 at 10:35 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 14, 2020 at 11:00 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 12:19 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 9:30 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 10:26 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 10:30 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 11:04 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2020 at 11:37 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - July 15, 2020 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2020 at 10:40 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 16, 2020 at 10:40 am
RE: Islam - by tackattack - July 16, 2020 at 11:12 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 16, 2020 at 6:12 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 16, 2020 at 7:34 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 16, 2020 at 7:41 pm
RE: Islam - by Abaddon_ire - July 16, 2020 at 8:37 pm
RE: Islam - by Deesse23 - July 17, 2020 at 1:51 am
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 16, 2020 at 6:21 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 16, 2020 at 6:38 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 16, 2020 at 6:50 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 16, 2020 at 7:02 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 16, 2020 at 8:29 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 16, 2020 at 9:08 pm
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 16, 2020 at 9:23 pm
RE: Islam - by AniKoferBo - July 16, 2020 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2020 at 9:12 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2020 at 9:29 pm
RE: Islam - by ido - July 16, 2020 at 11:06 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2020 at 11:24 pm
RE: Islam - by Fake Messiah - July 17, 2020 at 12:55 am
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 17, 2020 at 2:16 am
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 17, 2020 at 3:56 pm
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 17, 2020 at 7:08 pm
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 17, 2020 at 8:01 pm
RE: Islam - by WinterHold - July 18, 2020 at 2:11 am
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 18, 2020 at 2:27 am
RE: Islam - by Belacqua - July 18, 2020 at 4:07 am
RE: Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 18, 2020 at 5:28 am
RE: Islam - by Porcupine - July 18, 2020 at 5:48 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 18, 2020 at 7:34 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2020 at 2:41 am
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 17, 2020 at 8:41 pm
RE: Islam - by Grandizer - July 17, 2020 at 9:19 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 17, 2020 at 9:40 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 18, 2020 at 5:42 am
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2020 at 11:50 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 18, 2020 at 11:52 pm
RE: Islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2020 at 11:54 pm
RE: Islam - by The Architect Of Fate - July 21, 2020 at 9:05 pm
RE: Islam - by Porcupine - July 22, 2020 at 2:27 pm

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