(September 26, 2020 at 11:33 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I'm making this topic because in the last one that I made the conversation went into a direction of defining which denominations are real Christian denominations and which are not Christians.
This is usually subject among Christians and I've seen (and I'm probably not the only one here) that Christians of different denominations accuse other denominations of not being Christians.
Like Catholics are not really Christians because they accept evolution (although that is relative), they have boring mass, they call Sunday the Sabbath day instead of Saturday. They use beads, worship Mary (pagan God), they have the Pope which is no-no, and so on. And of course every denomination or church outside of the Catholic Church is heretic.
Baptists are not Christians because they are called baptists and followers of Jesus Christ were never called Baptists. The followers of John were never called Baptists. They call Sunday the Sabbath day instead of Saturday. They have unscriptural means of raising money. Baptists make the wrong confession. They say "confess your sins," but Christ says in Matt. 10:32, "Whosoever therefore shall confess ME before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven." The confession is not made in baptism. And so on
http://main.nc.us/spchurchofchrist/STEPHENS.htm
Evangelicals are not christians because they are pro Trump, pro greed, hypocrites, they are into lies (like QAnon) etc.
Episcopalians are not Christians because of their support for access to abortion and the openness of some Episcopal priests to questions about the physical resurrection of Jesus. They ordain openly gay and lesbian bishops.
Presbyterians are not Christians because they recognize same-sex marriage as Christian while other denominations with a traditional doctrine of sexuality tend to interpret Scripture in its original context, maintaining a traditional understanding of gender and marriage as an essential part of that narrative.
Mormons are not Christian because they do not believe in the Trinity. They accept extra books in their canon. They believe that the death of the apostles led to the death of apostolic succession and that the traditional church perpetuated a false line of apostolic succession.
Pentecostals are not Christians because they believe in speaking in tongues (unintelligible language or gibberish). They put Bible on a secondary place with Pentecostals as compared to experience. They put women as pastors and teachers over whole congregations. And so on
http://www.oldpaths.com/Archive/Davis/Wi...alism.html
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians because they don't believe in the Trinity (and who can blame them since the word Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible). They don't celebrate Sunday but Saturday. They came into existence in the late 19th Century.
Non-denominational Christians are not Christians because they are actually a denomination although they deny it. This isn't the model provided in the New Testament, which makes the idea of a non-denominational church itself an unbiblical concept. The pastor has far too much control and influence to the point that false doctrine is regularly taught and seldom challenged.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-core-...nal-church
in the bible salvation does not happen in this life. when ever salvation is mention it always point towards to the future. you will be saved we will be saved on that last day we will be saved ect. in this life we all but only follow the path of christ. salvation happens at judgement. meaning nothing we do here can save any of us. those who are to be christians get saved at or from judgement. IE christ decides on that last day. when he does we are not saved by denomination or even theology. we either acept Christ here and now and we will be saved or we do not and will be judged and cast out. that i why you can't find a denominational 'in.' there isn't one. the bible only talks about the church which is decided by christ and not labels we put on ourself. jew christian deist perhaps even muslim it all depends on christ the gospel and what we did with what we knew/understoof of it.
