(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(October 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We just had a catholic tell us the same thing. So what if god is going to do repugnant or unfair things - nothing we can do about it. What I'm wondering , though, is whether you agree with those unfair and repugnant things, in whatever you believe their proper context to be.
I don't like any of these things. I am compelled to agree, though. It makes sense, at least. We belong to god, there is nothing more wrong, then, by definition, than to pretend he doesn't exist. -if, of course, one is presented with compelling enough evidence.
Imagine lending your neighbor everything you have, everything. He denies your existence afterwards and plays with your property, violating every rule in the contract. If neighbor does really repugnant stuff to your property, he does deserve repugnant things from you.
(October 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I doubt that you've addressed any persons objections to islam - and I still have the same question that I did before you responded. If you're attempting to clear up some objection based around islam being a threat to society - telling us that the group you think kafir properly refers to is smaller than some people think...well.....that isn't going to help. Your religion of war has a focused shitlist - you think that it's the size of the shitlist rather than it's existence that's the problem.
And how is the existence of a shitlist a problem. It's really basic. Again : our bodies don't belong to us. We belong to god, god said, clearly, not to do some stuff. Some people do this exact stuff while aware of god's warnings. They deserve punishment. Is any of that a problem ? As far as I can tell, although I am not a god, there is no problem. My religion of war -as you like- is very straightforward : we belong to god, we should deal with it.
"We belonged to God"?
THAT, that right there is the biggest mistake humans have made in claiming any super natural power, of any religion.
"We exist" everyone sane should agree with. But as soon as ANYONE of any religion starts claiming super natural, superstitious, divine right over others. That is nothing more than advocating slavery.
