(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(October 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We just had a catholic tell us the same thing. So what if god is going to do repugnant or unfair things - nothing we can do about it. What I'm wondering , though, is whether you agree with those unfair and repugnant things, in whatever you believe their proper context to be.
I don't like any of these things. I am compelled to agree, though. It makes sense, at least. We belong to god, there is nothing more wrong, then, by definition, than to pretend he doesn't exist. -if, of course, one is presented with compelling enough evidence.
Sure, let's see it. I'll examine whatever evidence you present.
(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Imagine lending your neighbor everything you have, everything. He denies your existence afterwards and plays with your property, violating every rule in the contract. If neighbor does really repugnant stuff to your property, he does deserve repugnant things from you.
uhm, what the fuck are you even talking about? If I lent a neighbor all my property, what would that change for me personally? Is Islam about how much stuff you own and can lend out, and when your neighbor takes a piss on your shoes you lent him, you'll use that as an excuse for punching him? This is fucking ridiculous. And "contract", and using something I lent to my neighbor as an imperative for "repugnant" behavior??? You're delusional.
And in case you're wondering, I would never lend anything to someone like you. I might give you a penny, and be unsurprised if you found it fit to shove it up your ass, no skin off my back.
(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(October 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I doubt that you've addressed any persons objections to islam - and I still have the same question that I did before you responded. If you're attempting to clear up some objection based around islam being a threat to society - telling us that the group you think kafir properly refers to is smaller than some people think...well.....that isn't going to help. Your religion of war has a focused shitlist - you think that it's the size of the shitlist rather than it's existence that's the problem.
And how is the existence of a shitlist a problem. It's really basic. Again : our bodies don't belong to us.
O rly? I am my own person and I will do whatever the fuck I want with my own body. As long as I'm not, in my actions, doing anyone else any physical harm, then I will continue to reject your notions of lack of personal autonomy. Fuck you.
(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: We belong to god, god said, clearly, not to do some stuff.
Like what? And why?
(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Some people do this exact stuff while aware of god's warnings. They deserve punishment.
I would defend myself against any action against my autonomy. I would fight these assholes infringing on my autonomy.
(October 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Is any of that a problem ? As far as I can tell, although I am not a god, there is no problem. My religion of war -as you like- is very straightforward : we belong to god, we should deal with it.
Yes, it is a problem for anyone that respects the rights of individuals and autonomy. Despite your abhorrent and fucking ridiculous and moronic take, I still respect your autonomy and individuality, I just think your talking points are fucking moronic and I will not hesitate telling you that in this reply.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman