RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 15, 2020 at 11:59 am
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2020 at 12:02 pm by R00tKiT.)
(October 15, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're telling me that the people on the shitlist, which exists, deserve exactly what the extremists say.
That's right. So what...?
(October 15, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You think they finger the wrong people..but by your own criteria, that's false.
No, pal. That's not my own criteria, that's Islam's criteria. If you seriously object to the explanation of the word kafir' I gave, you're going to have to delve deeper into islamic jurisprudence and cite some sources.
(October 15, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They get it right, and you agree with them,
Whom are you talking about? The extremists..? You yourself acknoweldge they got the wrong size of your so-called "shitlist"..?
All policemen agree on shooting an armed thief, extremist policemen go further and decide to shoot anyone suspected to be one. Sure, an arbitrary policeman and an extremist policeman do have something in common because, obviously, "extremist policemen" are a subset of policemen. So, playing on the word extremist isn't going to be of much help, I'm afraid.
(October 15, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I have a system of beliefs that doesn't include the validity of human property. In fact, the entirety of western civilization has a system of beliefs that doesn't include the validity of human property. Here again you show that no one is mistaken about islam, you are mistaken about your audience.
You are mistaken about Islam. You just said we agree with extremists on the kafir's definition, and it turns out we're not.
Yes, I already know that western civilization doesn't have the same belief system as the eastern civilization, so what.? You think that a deity, if exists, - the same deity that created people - has no "right" to own people, though you already know we deal with inescapable constraints such as us being fallible, vulnerable to disease, permanently exposed to death. All these constraints own us, and my guess is it's not us who put such constraints in place.
(October 15, 2020 at 11:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If I had a dime for every time someone claimed that my things were their property,
What exactly do you mean by, "my things"...? You don't really own anything. If I consider my physical body, I already know that I can't consciously control my heart rate or my respiration. Despite the two being critical for my survival.
All it takes to strip a human being of any sense of control is one little bug affecting neural control of hand movements, for example. It takes a lot of coordination across the nervous system to hold something and claim it as one's "proprety" - and you don't own or control anything in your nervous system, which is a good thing. It would take considerable effort to breath and pump blood consciously across all your organs.
So, how can one own anything, if one doesn't own his blood flow and breath.?