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A disgraceful god
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RE: A disgraceful god
(May 2, 2021 at 3:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 2, 2021 at 2:42 pm)edial Wrote: But God does not demand that everyone love him. 
The Jews at the time, the Israelites, were enslaved by the Egyptians.
So they called on the 'God of Abraham' to save them from slavery.
God sent them Moses who did just that. Then the Jews became problematic and began speaking against God and doing things he did not like.

So God  basically told them that since they want his help and call on him ... loving and following him is reasonable.

Thanks, Ed

Quote: Of course God demands that everyone love him. That’s why he provides punishment for people who don’t.

This is not true. We all will die and in time there will be the Judgment Day.
And those who rejected God will be judged not by God, but by the people whom they harmed. And God will allow all the harm that people had done in their lives to count against them.
Quote:By your own statements, God will not help those who don’t love him. Your God has the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
But why should God help those who hate him?
Does this make sense to you?

Quote:And FYI, the Israelites were never enslaved in Egypt. That’s a myth.

Boru
But Boru, you came to an understanding that God demands that everyone loves him from the Bible. What's the point then of rejecting the text in the Bible that explains it?
Thanks,Ed

(May 2, 2021 at 3:13 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(May 2, 2021 at 1:46 pm)edial Wrote: What I do not understand is how Christianity is illogical.

Quote:Because it starts from illogical premises.  If you don't believe me read the bible.

The basic underpinnings for christianity are a minor war god of a pantheon from a weak and semi-barbaric group of tribes at the very outer edges of the first Mesopotamian civilisations who grew into an overpowerful and supremely spoilt toddlerish god and for whom eventually his contemporaries were ditched altogether creating a monotheistic religion.  Leaven this out with notions of paradise from Babylon/Persia, strictures and rituals from the mystery cults and a huge dose of scriptural demands from the Roman empire and you get the basis from whence modern christianity eventually evolved.
You are asking me to read the Bible, yet that what you say is not in the Bible.

(May 2, 2021 at 2:42 pm)edial Wrote: But God does not demand that everyone love him. 

Quote: The abrahamic god most definitely does.  Read your bible, it's one of the most repeated refrains from that book, "you must love me or I will damn you to eternal torment, because I am a needy and spiteful god".
I teach the Bible and that what you quoted is not in the Bible.

Thanks,Ed
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A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - April 20, 2021 at 9:47 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2021 at 10:14 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by ignoramus - April 20, 2021 at 10:17 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Belacqua - April 20, 2021 at 11:21 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2021 at 11:30 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Drich - April 20, 2021 at 3:31 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Jehanne - April 20, 2021 at 6:09 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Drich - April 21, 2021 at 12:19 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by no one - April 20, 2021 at 3:43 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Astreja - April 20, 2021 at 3:45 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2021 at 6:32 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Jehanne - April 20, 2021 at 8:02 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2021 at 8:28 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Jehanne - April 20, 2021 at 10:25 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2021 at 10:43 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Jehanne - April 20, 2021 at 11:45 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Architect Of Fate - April 21, 2021 at 12:42 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by no one - April 21, 2021 at 12:49 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2021 at 12:36 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by no one - April 21, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Mercyvessel - April 25, 2021 at 7:30 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Ravenshire - April 25, 2021 at 9:05 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Mercyvessel - April 29, 2021 at 9:51 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - April 29, 2021 at 9:56 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Gwaithmir - April 30, 2021 at 7:12 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Ravenshire - April 30, 2021 at 3:29 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Astreja - May 1, 2021 at 1:41 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by vulcanlogician - April 25, 2021 at 10:10 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Gwaithmir - April 25, 2021 at 11:55 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Astreja - April 26, 2021 at 12:20 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Ravenshire - April 26, 2021 at 5:52 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Astreja - April 26, 2021 at 8:55 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Abaddon_ire - April 26, 2021 at 6:02 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by GUBU - April 30, 2021 at 6:05 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Architect Of Fate - April 25, 2021 at 10:20 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Angrboda - April 30, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by no one - May 1, 2021 at 10:42 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Architect Of Fate - May 2, 2021 at 1:24 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 1:46 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by GUBU - May 2, 2021 at 3:13 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2021 at 2:16 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2021 at 3:05 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 3:20 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by GUBU - May 2, 2021 at 3:36 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 3:45 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by GUBU - May 2, 2021 at 3:59 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by brewer - May 2, 2021 at 9:16 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2021 at 3:38 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2021 at 3:51 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 3:57 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 2, 2021 at 3:59 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 4:28 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by vulcanlogician - May 2, 2021 at 4:56 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by GUBU - May 2, 2021 at 4:03 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2021 at 3:55 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 4:01 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Abaddon_ire - May 3, 2021 at 11:15 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Astreja - May 3, 2021 at 11:22 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2021 at 3:58 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by edial - May 2, 2021 at 4:04 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by vulcanlogician - May 2, 2021 at 4:19 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Nay_Sayer - May 2, 2021 at 7:19 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2021 at 4:25 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2021 at 5:02 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by arewethereyet - May 2, 2021 at 5:17 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Architect Of Fate - May 2, 2021 at 5:31 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Architect Of Fate - May 2, 2021 at 9:27 pm
RE: A disgraceful god - by Gwaithmir - May 3, 2021 at 7:54 am
RE: A disgraceful god - by The Grand Nudger - May 3, 2021 at 8:04 am

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