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Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
(June 3, 2021 at 1:25 pm)Astreja Wrote: You have got to be kidding.  Are you so naïve that you can't see the evil that religion has done in this world?  Right now, Canada is flying flags at half-mast because of the discovery of a mass grave of children at a Catholic-run residential school in British Columbia.

It isn't the beliefs, per se - it's the infantilization of believers and the vesting of virtually unlimited power in the hands of manipulative people in the name of (the Mother Church, Fearless Leader, The Party -- any ideology, religious or secular, where power is centralized and obedience is coerced).

Humanity doesn't need messages to the effect of "Just obey God and everything will turn out okay."  Humanity needs to take a giant step away from obedience and towards personal responsibility, and start basing morality on empathy rather than a fear of being punished.

But abortion is fine...right up to the moment of birth? At 121 million abortions worldwide, per year? 
Humans are way more prolific at killing than God has ever thought of being!

I'm not condoning anything done by so called, religious groups throughout history. But, I don't know how you 
can say talk about that evil and think abortion is not without reproach?

Reject offhand all religion. And anyone associated with it. Blame all the woes of the world on them/us. It's your God
given right, and choice. Freewill. But in doing so, you may also throw away knowledge and truth!

I'm old and wise enough to know, you can learn from every situation. And every person has some gift to give. We can sit in judgement
on many things. It doesn't mean we're right. Can I say that atheists are all bad? Would that be wrong? I have friends and family that are 
atheists. They are "good" people. I judge individuals. Not organizations. And whether they are; loving, caring and wise people. Period

So, blanket statements about religion are intrinsically wrong! As with any "blanket" statement is. That makes anyone doing it look biased 
and dumb. It's just not so! It's a lie; based on emotion and hate. The numbers don't support the claim. Just because you don't like it, 
doesn't make it true. But, around here...you get the "pass" you wouldn't in a real world scenario.

The world is made-up of humans that are for the most part good. Evil is a small number in any group. And all of us should be working
for that "good". And Truth. Instead of dividing us over our tastes. We don't judge people on race? Why should any other freedom and 
right be different? Good religious and their deeds far, FAR outweigh anything evil you scour the net for! But again, doesn't fit your
narrative, and tastes.
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims - by ronedee - June 3, 2021 at 4:46 pm

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