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Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
Quote:Without getting off topic too much here (probably too late!)... Science says; that a fetus aka infant, is viable 20- 24 weeks and has
a 50% chance or greater of surviving outside the womb. Science also says that pain is felt after 20 weeks.
Irrelevant 


Quote:So, the question; When is the fetus considered a human being, with rights of it's own?
Doesn't matter


Quote:Everyone here seems to be abhorred at the death of children/babies from painful conditions and death by
God & Christians? 
Yup 


Quote:Where's the outrage for the late term abortions which make up 9-30% (figures vary wildly
according to sources!)? Even at 7% that's 8.5 million per year, worldwide!
Not the same thing 


Quote:Why is that ok? If you are against child pain and death, why aren't they included? 
Because it's not the same thing 



Quote:If, I go by the responses here? "It's in my body, so I can do whatever I want with it!"
Yup if it goes on inside your body no one has the right to insist you do something 



Quote:By that premise, we are led to believe that the fetus is either; 1) not a human being, or 2) has no rights
If it has rights they don't extend to the inside of someone else nor do they entitle you to use someone else's body.



Quote:So, which is it? And does the father have any say at all?
There is no contradiction thus no requirement for a choice, And no his say ends after insemination.


Quote: If the woman keeps the baby, he will be hunted down
Nobody is hunted down don't dramatic!


Quote:in order to provide for both!
Yup because there is a child that needs care and taking a tiny amount of money from him do so is a small price to pay.



Quote:Common sense, and science both say the fetus is indeed a human. 
Again irrelevant 


Quote:And law says, humans have, unalienable rights!
No one has the right to someone else's body or to live within it or to use it's resources against the will of that person 



Quote:I won't get into all the parallel's & comparisons that can be drawn from this subject. But, they are numerous!
You could try but you will fail 


Quote:The question remains, "Is that fetus a baby?"
 Actually, that question is irrelevant 



Quote:It's interesting how we can justify just about anything that fits our narrative and lifestyle.
Nope this is built on sound reason 


Quote:But, not others who merely have a different belief system. And find every reason for it to be "wrong and detrimental to society", and 
life as we know it!. 
Abortion is neither to society or life as we know it. Again stop being overdramatic 


Quote:But, ending a life is fine...under convenient circumstances.
Convenient nope. Justified absolutely.



Quote:For all that is blamed on God? Hypocrisy isn't one of them!
Nope god is both a hypocrite and responsible for all deaths and murders ....Period
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims - by The Architect Of Fate - June 4, 2021 at 9:56 am

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