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Raising the minimum wage won't help
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
(June 9, 2021 at 1:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 9, 2021 at 12:43 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I worked in fast food before I graduated High School - and started for $1.35 an hour. That' s who is SUPPOSED to be working there - kids - learning job skills and earning some cash. The job skills needed to do the job are nearly nil. A warm body that moves on occasion. You can't expect to make a living doing something that takes 16 hours to learn.

The problem isn't that these jobs don't pay enough - the problem is that the people who are doing them should not be trying to make a living doing these jobs. They should have picked up job skills and moved on to something better paying than minimum wage.
Why shouldn’t someone be able to live off of full time work that only took them “16 hours” to learn? How is that relevant? If they show up on time every day and do the job that is required of them for 8-10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week, why don’t they deserve to be able to live from the time they’ve given their employer? How does job skill have anything to do with worthiness of the basic essentials of human life?

No much on economics, huh?

That's ok.....  I'm betting you're smart enough to learn it. What I am not sure about is if you will look at it dispassionately enough to understand it.

....
It all boils down to this- all wealth is simply a substitute for effort - of work, learning - and not more than just a bit of luck and timing. (Luck = inheritances, marrying into money, ect)


Imagine if you will that you are the only human being on the planet. Everything you have, you would have to supply yourself.

Add people. To get others to expend effort for you - you will have to have something they want from you. 

If you' re the smartest, strongest grunt in the cave - your efforts will be in higher demand.

Sure - our interactions today are more complex - but the theory holds.

Someone who doesn't expend enough effort to support themselves manages to survive only by being parasitic. Consider the amount of work that goes into everything that McD's worker consumes - and you will quickly see that their output of work doesn't even come close...

It's like a kid expecting a college education because they picked up their socks and mowed the lawn....
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Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Foxaèr - May 25, 2021 at 6:51 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by brewer - May 25, 2021 at 7:36 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - May 25, 2021 at 9:30 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by ignoramus - May 26, 2021 at 4:24 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by mascale - June 7, 2021 at 3:20 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 7, 2021 at 9:29 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 8, 2021 at 10:57 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 8, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 1:16 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 1:56 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 1:44 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by onlinebiker - June 9, 2021 at 1:24 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 1:02 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 9, 2021 at 4:04 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 9, 2021 at 4:17 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by mascale - June 8, 2021 at 2:00 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by GUBU - June 9, 2021 at 1:26 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by mascale - June 8, 2021 at 7:36 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 8, 2021 at 8:04 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by mascale - June 9, 2021 at 1:42 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Fireball - June 9, 2021 at 9:03 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 2:28 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 1:15 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 2:16 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 2:45 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 4:06 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 4:21 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 5:12 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 5:34 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by mascale - June 9, 2021 at 5:47 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 6:46 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Brian37 - June 9, 2021 at 7:56 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 10, 2021 at 11:39 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by onlinebiker - June 10, 2021 at 12:18 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by LadyForCamus - June 10, 2021 at 12:55 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Aegon - June 10, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Foxaèr - June 9, 2021 at 8:35 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 9, 2021 at 9:09 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 10, 2021 at 12:43 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by brewer - June 10, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Angrboda - June 10, 2021 at 2:49 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by brewer - June 10, 2021 at 2:53 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Foxaèr - June 10, 2021 at 8:32 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 10, 2021 at 5:36 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 11, 2021 at 5:07 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Jackalope - June 11, 2021 at 5:09 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Foxaèr - June 11, 2021 at 5:53 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by GUBU - June 14, 2021 at 3:54 am
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Sal - June 13, 2021 at 9:26 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by GUBU - June 16, 2021 at 4:20 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Fireball - June 14, 2021 at 7:11 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Angrboda - June 15, 2021 at 9:14 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 15, 2021 at 11:31 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by onlinebiker - June 16, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Angrboda - June 16, 2021 at 12:19 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by onlinebiker - June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2021 at 12:54 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by onlinebiker - June 16, 2021 at 12:59 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Angrboda - June 16, 2021 at 3:45 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2021 at 1:02 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Jackalope - June 16, 2021 at 5:54 pm
RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2021 at 9:22 pm

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