If people were 100% rational, would the world be better?

[LadyForCamus]

Is conscious experience not also a thing of value?  I suspect the answers to that question will be as varied as conscious viewers are.  Perhaps that's why we tend to presume that people who fail to see any of that value, anywhere, aren't playing with a full deck..or, to be generous, having their best or most reasonable day.

I mean, don’t get me wrong. Maybe I’m not playing with a full deck, lol. I can’t rule that possibility out myself, I suppose. 

Another fun thought to play with down the rabbit hole.  If value is fundamentally subjective, than conscious experience is literally the value maker.  All value proceeds from it, and without it nothing is of value.

You have me thinking then, can the value-assigner assign value to itself? That seems wrong to me. Something is valuable if it serves some purpose to the value-assigner. What purpose does my own existence serve to myself? What am I even saying? My own existence serves the purpose of me existing? That seems circular, or like a tautology. Can we even talk about the valuation of things within our existence and the value of our existence itself in a comparative way that is reasonable? 

Would it be fair to say, then, that you see many rational reasons for life, or for a selective preference for life, or for why equilibrium seeking produces the compulsion?  Other than all of those reasons, or any of those rational cases, you cant see a reason or rational case for life.

I’m not sure I’m convinced they’re rational. I don’t know yet. I’m thinking on it. I keep going back and forth, tbh. If simply wanting live is a rational case for life; life for life’s sake and nothing more; then isn’t not wanting to live equally as rational? 

Kloro thinks there's no reason/value/purpose to life because it isn't god value.  You have a value category that you're inquiring about too..but it's not the set of rational cases for life.  You're aware of some and can imagine that there are more, but those cases don't satisfy that set you have in mind.

I think many theists use god-value and eternal existence interchangeably, though the latter doesn’t necessarily follow from the former. Would theists care as much about how much god values them if a promised eternal afterlife wasn’t part of the shtick? If they had the same awareness of inevitable annihilation as we do? I’m thinking probably not. It’s permenance that most theists (and some atheists) want. I’m not sure they’d even care about a god if they knew they could have it without one. @Neo-Scholastic is welcome to jump in on this one. I’d be curious to hear his thoughts.

This statement strongly suggests that you do want it, and don't want it to end.

Correct. But that isn’t one of the choices.  The choices are exist for as long as possible and then not exist, or not exist. They seem the same to me. So, how is it irrational to simply decide to choose the second and not bother with the in-between at all?