(September 7, 2021 at 8:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(September 7, 2021 at 8:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Be very, very careful. Backpedaling that fast could get your trousers caught in the bike chain.
Boru
Well.. it's not anybody's fault if you misunderstand theism. If somebody says "this universe points to a God", then there are, if we were to give them the benefit of the doubt, hidden premises and presuppositions in their assertion. People don't spit syllogisms all the time when they explain their beliefs.
What @brewer is asking for is some empirically measurable way to discern God's existence, there is clearly something syntactically incoherent about his request, since God is usually defined as a disembodied mind.
Which is precisely why talking about the existence of such a thing is incoherent.
if there is no way to distinguish its existence from its non-existence, the question itself is incoherent and so the concept is useless.