(September 8, 2021 at 7:37 am)Spongebob Wrote: @Klorophyll I think everyone here gets that your position is based solely on the Cosmological argument. That's fine; it's a valid philosophical argument
Then we're done. BOOM. Atheism is flushed down the toilet.
(September 8, 2021 at 7:37 am)Spongebob Wrote: but as arguments go it is, in the end, inconclusive. One can accept your assumptions and conclusions as true or reject them as incomplete and neither can be demonstrated to be true or false. That's the nature of the argument.
I am not sure what you're driving at exactly. The premise "The universe began to exist" is supported by modern cosmology, namely the BB. Although it doesn't completely preclude an eternal universe, the data we have about the observable universe suggests that there had to be a beggining and eventually some end.
The other premise "Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existence" is simply the causality principle. Feel free to reject the causality principle, if you're willing to go that far to dodge God's existence.