(September 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: A universe requires a cause, it can't just pop out of nothing. That's why the concept of God is necessary
Oh, I missed this old canard.
No one here, and not a single scientist claims that the universe popped out of nothing. The way physicists define 'nothing' is not the same way that I believe you are referring to 'nothing', as in; absolute nonexistence.
Existence has always existed. In some form.
Our universe did not come into existence from nonexistence. It just existed in a different form. All that was necessary for the current presentation of the universe, was a change in state from whatever the previous presentation of the universe was.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.