(September 14, 2021 at 12:28 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(September 13, 2021 at 5:04 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: That's just a claim. For the third time: do you have any reference of what's above.....??
It doesn't follow that there is a law that describes causality. The word "law" is simply a label we put on have we describe repeatable phenomena around us, nothing tells us that are laws outside of the universe -assuming there is an outside.
And there is nothing logically incoherent about a lawless universe.
And in such a universe, there would be no causality.
Quote:It's a bit more than actual infinite regress, you have to take into account the fact that we exist, that our universe as an element of this causal chain really happened. It means an infinite duration of time (or sequences of events) preceded it -impossible.
No, the universe is NOT an element of that causal chain. The causal chain happens *within* the universe.
Our friend is falling into the Fallacy of Decomposition -- While it is true that in a flock of sheep that every sheep has a mother, it does not therefore follow that the flock has a mother. Besides, events happen in our Universe that have no cause.