RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 2, 2021 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2021 at 4:00 pm by Ghetto Sheldon.)
(October 2, 2021 at 2:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:^^ unreasonable response(October 2, 2021 at 2:25 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: We don't say schizophrenia is make believe.
We don't say a pathological delusion or psychotic experience is make believe.
The god delusion is no pretend
God is not make believe.
It's no pretend
Ppl have been wired for potentials to have god beliefs since cave days
This ^^ is an upgrade concept
Science & medicine is superior to logic/philosophy
You’d go to a physician who didn’t believe in logic? That’s a waste of time - you don’t need a prescription for Ivermectin.
Boru
(October 2, 2021 at 2:39 pm)Lawz Wrote:It is irrational to demand evidence for a delusion. What we should demand, IMO, is an ICD code so we can bill for Rx. The irrationality of a delusion is not an argument against it but a condition of it(October 2, 2021 at 2:25 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: We don't say schizophrenia is make believe.
We don't say a pathological delusion or psychotic experience is make believe.
The god delusion is no pretend
God is not make believe.
It's no pretend
Ppl have been wired for potentials to have god beliefs since cave days
This ^^ is an upgrade concept
Science & medicine is superior to logic/philosophy
Schizophrenia, pathological delusions and psychotic experiences are not make believe, and neither is religion, nor religious beliefs - those things exist, sure as eggs is eggs. God, on the other hand (BTW - which God are we talking about here?) - No evidence for any God's existence, my dear. No evidence, nor rational.
(October 2, 2021 at 2:29 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 2, 2021 at 2:25 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: Science & medicine is superior to logic/philosophy
Welcome to the forum, Sheldon!
I disagree that science is superior to logic. One relies on the other. Scientists use logic all the time. They are both awesome.
Science informs philosophy by providing true premises. Logic aids science by helping us to reach accurate conclusions.
When I say science is superior to logic, this is an opening line. If you dispute an opening line instead of asking *how* science is superior to logic, then you're arguing against that which you don't understand. Your response is of a defensive nature which ranks along with being irrational & willfully ignorant.
That's how easy it is to succumb to being no better than that which is confronted.
Which is very much an intuitive response.
Now, take this info & start listening to my substantiation.
Then start practicing this dynamic with others
The struggle is real. REdirecting is not easy. A refusal to take my suggestion is digging into dogmatic dynamics . We all do it.
(September 7, 2021 at 7:46 pm)brewer Wrote: OP: I don't care about any of the drivel you posted. Show me concrete evidence for god and I'll consider it.It is unethical to demand that which doesn't exist from the incompetent.
And no one can argue a god into existence
In a professional setting where YECs belong, insisting a YEC has BoP would be a 3rd degree felony.
(September 7, 2021 at 7:56 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(September 7, 2021 at 7:46 pm)brewer Wrote: Show me concrete evidence for god
Category mistake: asking for concrete/empirical evidence for the existence of a non-empirical being.
Your request is logically invalid
In what universe is it rational to ask for that which doesn't exist? IF/when there ever is evidence for a god, a science team will announce it and CNN will cover it for a solid week at least