RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 3, 2021 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2021 at 2:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 3, 2021 at 2:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:I'm not telling you that arguments don't change reality, I'm telling you that if the understanding from qm, for example, is more accurate with respect to reality -and a god exists-..then you've been tilting at windmills. You were wrong about an existent god.(November 3, 2021 at 2:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Kloro, it's just your silly god, do you understand?
Because you insist that your god is the grand nudger, you think that something about causality must be central to gods and demonstrating them...but if it turned out that there were gods, and they weren't grand nudgers..as the vast majority of gods ever invented by people anywhere at any time, it wouldn't be an issue.
Fundamentally, it can't be an issue for any existent god however the causality cookie crumbles - because either way...if a god exists, it exists concurrently with whatever facts about causality are true - even if the true fact turns out to be that causality isn't.
I already said I agree with what's above. I assume you're aware that you are repeating a tautology -that arguments don't change reality. Sure, nothing about any principle's validity will introduce a deity into existence. But here we're only discussing whether there is a conclusive argument. We can't do better than that....
Is that not a possibility for you? God is stuck, forever, with whatever happens to fall out of your head and your head specifically? If things are any way other than you believe them to be..gods shit out of luck?
Quote:The same way you think the appearance of design isn't compelling, I think the appearance of "pretty bad acts" isn't compelling either....Correct, I don't find your churlish misunderstandings of biology compelling at all. I bet an existent god would be a little embarrased for you, too. I mean, you're his handiwork, after all..eh?
Pretty fish, therefore djinn.
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