RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
February 2, 2022 at 6:10 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2022 at 6:11 pm by GUBU.)
(February 2, 2022 at 4:05 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(January 5, 2022 at 3:17 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Insisting all through this thread that a gods existence is necessarily tied to and convincingly demonstrated by a causal relationship with every other thing, where god sits at the bottom of it all - the one explanation for all things. You think the world looks that way (which is awfully empirical..but I digress). Simply put....If p, then q.
If, however, there is no such causal relationship...say...because we live in a fundamentally acausal universe, then there is no god. Not q, therefore not p. QED.
Congratulations for butchering the contrapositive of a conditional statement.
P: "Causality holds"
Q: "God exists"
Assume P=>Q. Now, Not-Q therefore not-P is, in words, No god therefore no causality. No first cause therefore no causality, sounds reasonable.
Back to the issue of causality, I recently encountered an interesting quote in a popular Muslim apologetics group, it's from a recent book: the Kalam Cosmological Argument: A Reassessment.
Sounds like we were right, we were right all along...
All this is assertion. To be able to do the P Q thing you are trying to do you require evidence. You have none. If you did you'd post evidence instead of this bullshit.
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