RE: Greetings
April 22, 2011 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2011 at 4:46 pm by ruhollah.)
I see, there are many reasons why God exists. Later I can give some good examples based on the beauty of the universe and evolution of creatures to show why all the signs point to a one God.
Now Qur'an, along with Bible, Torah, ...etc. have more or less the same messages. They were all the same manuals sent to different cultures/nations in their respective languages.
Prophet Muhammad like many other prophets before him, came at a time when society around him/her was on the brink of destruction. As I mentioned earlier, in pre-Islamic Arabia, burying female babies was considered normal! Abusing and killing slaves was considered normal!
And like all the prophets before him, slowly he brought change to the community's mindset. People stop killing their female babies, freed their slaves, stop senseless killings....etc. He was called a kook at first, abused, pissed on, then banned from the town, then his family was abused, and slowly and slowly people began waking up and following his message. The people of pre-Islam Arabia were lost and his message help guide the people.
Now if you want a reason why God exists, I can provide a billion examples based on the beauty of nature....
but here is the most effective argument...
you are a descendant of your parents
your parents are a descendant of your grand-parents
your grand-parents are a descendant of their parents...
...
...
a certain species evolved from a certain species
those species evolved from bacteria
bacteria was derived from carbon and water
that carbon and water was derived from elements
these elements are derived from certain atoms/magnetic fields
those atoms were derived from certain quarks...
...big bang occurred to certain string vibrations
...
we keep going like this to infinity......
we believe that at infinity, you find the origin of everything that is created... and that origin is God
Now Qur'an, along with Bible, Torah, ...etc. have more or less the same messages. They were all the same manuals sent to different cultures/nations in their respective languages.
Prophet Muhammad like many other prophets before him, came at a time when society around him/her was on the brink of destruction. As I mentioned earlier, in pre-Islamic Arabia, burying female babies was considered normal! Abusing and killing slaves was considered normal!
And like all the prophets before him, slowly he brought change to the community's mindset. People stop killing their female babies, freed their slaves, stop senseless killings....etc. He was called a kook at first, abused, pissed on, then banned from the town, then his family was abused, and slowly and slowly people began waking up and following his message. The people of pre-Islam Arabia were lost and his message help guide the people.
(April 22, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Eleazar Wrote:(April 22, 2011 at 4:20 pm)ruhollah Wrote: I just gave you specific examples.... you want evidence, how about myself and millions of others..I think Napoleon is more after reasons for believing that Allah exists, that the Qur'an is his revelation and that Muhammad is his prophet.
Now if you want a reason why God exists, I can provide a billion examples based on the beauty of nature....
but here is the most effective argument...
you are a descendant of your parents
your parents are a descendant of your grand-parents
your grand-parents are a descendant of their parents...
...
...
a certain species evolved from a certain species
those species evolved from bacteria
bacteria was derived from carbon and water
that carbon and water was derived from elements
these elements are derived from certain atoms/magnetic fields
those atoms were derived from certain quarks...
...big bang occurred to certain string vibrations
...
we keep going like this to infinity......
we believe that at infinity, you find the origin of everything that is created... and that origin is God
