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Greetings
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RE: Greetings
(April 22, 2011 at 4:39 pm)ruhollah Wrote: but here is the most effective argument...
An argument typically involves two or more premises (statements like "sunsets are beautiful" or "human beings came about via an evolutionary process") and a conclusion. A sound argument is one where all the premises are true, and the conclusion logically follows from the premises (and so it must be true as well).

To give the classic example:
Premise 1: Socrates is a man.
Premise 2: Every man is mortal.
Conclusion: Therefore, Socrates is mortal.

Both the premises are true, and the conclusion logically follows from them - so it is a sound argument, and therefore the conclusion is true.

As you have stated them so far, your arguments for God's existence cannot be sound arguments - because they only really involve one premise.

For example, you argument from origins:

Premise 1: The evolutionary process can be traced back to "infinity".
Premise 2: ...
Conclusion: At "infinity", the origin of the evolutionary process is God.

Do you see how your conclusion, whether true or not, doesn't at all follow from Premise 1? You need to give another premise so that the conclusion does follow. (You also need to make clear what you mean by "infinity" as it's a notoriously slippery concept!)

I'm not saying that there's not an element of truth in your arguments, or that you couldn't make sound arguments out of them, only that you need to do quite a bit more work to make your arguments sound.
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Messages In This Thread
Greetings - by ruhollah - April 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm
RE: Greetings - by Darwinian - April 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 21, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 21, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Greetings - by Violet - April 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 22, 2011 at 12:13 am
RE: Greetings - by tackattack - April 22, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 3:57 am
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2011 at 4:00 am
RE: Greetings - by Rayaan - April 22, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 5:53 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 6:12 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 7:04 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 7:07 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 7:10 am
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2011 at 7:15 am
RE: Greetings - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 7:21 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 7:34 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 7:38 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 7:41 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Greetings - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: Greetings - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 5:44 pm
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 23, 2011 at 9:01 am
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 23, 2011 at 9:07 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 23, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 1:27 am
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 24, 2011 at 5:55 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 24, 2011 at 6:19 am
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 24, 2011 at 6:23 am
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 24, 2011 at 6:32 am
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 24, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 24, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 24, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 25, 2011 at 5:34 am
RE: Greetings - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: Greetings - by Eleazar - April 23, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Greetings - by Darinda - April 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 22, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: Greetings - by KichigaiNeko - April 23, 2011 at 9:33 am
RE: Greetings - by Violet - April 22, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: Greetings - by Eleazar - April 22, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: Greetings - by Napoléon - April 22, 2011 at 7:11 am
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 22, 2011 at 11:30 pm
RE: Greetings - by Ace Otana - April 23, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Greetings - by ruhollah - April 23, 2011 at 11:29 pm
RE: Greetings - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: Greetings - by Welsh cake - April 25, 2011 at 8:15 am



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