(October 24, 2011 at 7:52 am)lucent Wrote: Foreknowledge doesn't rule out free will. Foreknowledge doesn't force you to do something, nor does it prevent you from doing something.
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It absolutely does. God, if he is omniscient, made every choice for humans in advance. He had the ability to choose starting conditions - it wasn't just that he knew where humanity would go, but he manipulated it into going a specific way, thereby deciding all future choices.
If he had set humanity in motion, but couldn't see the future, free will could exist. Likewise, if he could see the future, but not control it, free will could exist. But since he can do both, he chose what every human ever would choose to do when he created the universe, and that isn't free will.
God knew that Adam and Eve would eat the apple. Why did he construct a world in which that would happen? Motherfucker.
(October 24, 2011 at 7:52 am)lucent Wrote: Remember that Eve was tempted of the tree because she wanted Gods wisdom for herself.
Nope. She was tempted by that snake guy.
