(October 29, 2011 at 7:31 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Where does it say any of this in the Bible?
Saving grace is detailed all throughout scripture, including Ephesians 1 and 2, Romans 5, 8, 9, and 11, John 6, and10 to name a few. Common grace is deduced from verses such as Genesis 6:8, Romans 1 and 3, and Acts 10 just to also name a few.
Quote: John Bradford would approve of this statement were he alive today and not burned at the stake, I guess.
He was reformed, so yes he would have.
Quote: Goes to show you can dedicate your life to this God monster and the cosmic cunt can't even grant you a quick and painless death.
Bradford is reigning with Christ today; I assure you it was all worth it.
Quote: So in your way of thinking god as first-cause is responsible for, everything?
God ordains all that comes to pass, whether it be actively or passively.
Quote:And how is this a bad thing if you believe god intends to destroy most of humanity in a predeterminated amount of time anyway? Is he like an examiner on a driving test who likes to get his "money's-worth" if the learner made a major fault from the very beginning and tells them they failed half-an-hour later for the entertainment-value?
He does not destroy unbelievers, they are given justice. However, God sees it fit to give even the unbeliever better than they deserve because he is a loving God.
Quote: So no one did any good deed before Jebus came?
Christ atoned for people who came before him as well as after him.
Quote: Statler, are you making stuff up again?
Nope, nor have I ever. Claiming I have is something you cannot even demonstrate so stop bearing false witness and making stuff up.
Quote: He should've asked 'daddy' for a refund because he didn't save that many considering the sacrifice. Some all-powerful god you believe in.This commits the fallacy of believing that God wanted to save everyone and failed. Scripture is quite clear that everyone God wants to be saved has been and will be, and all others were given what they deserved; perfect grace and justice in action.