(November 25, 2011 at 1:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Btw, Tack, Eve never had a chance, god knew exactly what was going to happen did he not? Chance or choice assumes that there are at least two options, two outcomes. If god already knew the outcome, it was set. There was only one way it was going to turn out. Precognitive ability (whether possessed a by god, a human being, or some rock somewhere) annihilates choice, chance, free will, etc. If you want to keep one or the other of these things (gods precognitive abilities, or our free will) you'll have to make a choice as to which is more important to you. Were I a christian, I'd keep free will, alot of the story rides on free will, not so much on god's ability to foretell the future.
In the broadest perspective there is no free will because one being has a perspective of viewing all. This does not negate Eve's choice because God knew what would happen because Eve doesn't share God's perspective. God has free will, Eve has free will; it's a matter of perspective whether a human has an effective free will.
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