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			<title><![CDATA[Our role(s) as Christians on Atheist Forums]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The topic for debate and discussion is our role(s) as Christians on Atheist Forums. <br />
<br />
Moderators: Tiberius, vulcanlogician<br />
<br />
Participants: RoadRunner79, Catholic_Lady, SteveII, alpha male, Drich, Neo-Scholastic, Godscreated, A Theist<br />
<br />
Debate rules:<br />
<br />
1 - Only one post per day but post can be as long as you want. That will limit the amount of back and forth chattiness.<br />
2 - No using the quote function. Respond to each other by restating/paraphrasing the points made by others. That preserves the debate format.<br />
3 - "Wall Street Journal" rule - language must conform to the editorial standards of a respected journal.<br />
<br />
Note: I'm going to be pretty loose with the definition of "one post per day". I'm not going to require 24 hours between posts, so you can post at 5pm one day and 10am the next if you want. As a good rule of thumb, try to sleep between your posts. <img src="https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_81" /> - Tibs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The topic for debate and discussion is our role(s) as Christians on Atheist Forums. <br />
<br />
Moderators: Tiberius, vulcanlogician<br />
<br />
Participants: RoadRunner79, Catholic_Lady, SteveII, alpha male, Drich, Neo-Scholastic, Godscreated, A Theist<br />
<br />
Debate rules:<br />
<br />
1 - Only one post per day but post can be as long as you want. That will limit the amount of back and forth chattiness.<br />
2 - No using the quote function. Respond to each other by restating/paraphrasing the points made by others. That preserves the debate format.<br />
3 - "Wall Street Journal" rule - language must conform to the editorial standards of a respected journal.<br />
<br />
Note: I'm going to be pretty loose with the definition of "one post per day". I'm not going to require 24 hours between posts, so you can post at 5pm one day and 10am the next if you want. As a good rule of thumb, try to sleep between your posts. <img src="https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_81" /> - Tibs]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Debate Rules]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The following are a set of rules I propose for debates within this forum, obviously my basis of thought at present is my upcoming debate with Frodo but I have tried to generalise as much as possible. These originally derive from some science debate rules I authored some time ago but in view of the fact that theists don't seem to see many things from the POV as atheists (nor metaphycisists and materialists) and that that would unfairly hobble the arguments of those from less materialist/atheist camps I have tried to remove anything from them that will disadvantage them.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Kyuuketsuki</span></span><br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Notes</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Protagonists</span><br />
An <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> debate will typically require two protagonists or teams of protagonists. There is no reason why more teams cannot be involved but all teams must be equally matched in numbers.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Referee</span><br />
A referee will be appointed. A referee's role is to oversee the organisation of the debate, to introduce it and to manage the debate as it progresses. Debate management will cover the following:<ul class="mycode_list"></li>
<li>Setting deadlines.<br />
</li>
<li>Handling postponements.<br />
</li>
<li>Ensuring compliance to the rules<br />
</li>
<li>Terminating the debate in the event of a fault<br />
</li>
<li>Ensuring the debate stays on topic</li></ul>
Note that a referee is not required to judge the validity of various protagonists' arguments but sets the structure for the debate (based on these notes), handles queries from protagonists. A referee can only award a debate to a particular protagonist if the other fails to adhere to the rules. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Judges</span><br />
These will not normally be required but, if requested by all involved  parties will decide on who wins the debate based on merit of arguments given. No judges will be allowed to abstain and there will normally be multiple judges (odd numbers).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Forums</span><br />
The debate exists separately to all other discussions and protagonists are asked not to refer to previous discussions in any form i.e. that something was stated in forum (external to the debate) at any other point is considered irrelevant to the debate (internally).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Discussion</span><br />
Other <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> are free to discuss the debate but must do so outside of the debate forum.  <br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Rules</span><br />
The following are a suggested set of rules and ones upon which observers will be evaluating the protagonists arguments and behaviour. Debates are (or should be) more about content than about quick or direct responses (as would happen in normal forum discussion) so time to respond is a key factor. It should be understood that there is no need to quote the opposing member's statements as they will be available at all times. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 1: Participation</span><br />
All protagonists (or teams of protagonists) must agree to fully participate in the discussion and to follow through on points made by their adversaries ... not dealing with a specific point may be seen as a weakness in an argument.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 2: Relevance</span><br />
All points within the debate should be relevant to the debate topic or clear responses to points raised by other protagonists. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 3: Rebuttals</span><br />
It is unacceptable to "blow off" a considered, point-by-point refutation of a protagonist's answer with a few short lines unless those points are actually relevant to and deal with the points they are understood to be responding to.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 4: Quotes</span><br />
Whilst protagonists are allowed to quote other sources, such quotes should not be overused and should be brief, relevant, in context and referenced (if possible to source).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 5: Plagiarism</span><br />
All protagonists must answer the posts in their own words, the use of URL's should be restricted to references and copy/pasted articles and/or plagiarism is not acceptable. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 6: References</span><br />
All sources used should be listed at the end of the statement and can be considered separate from any formal word counts.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Examples:</span> <br />
Book/Journal: <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Author, N. N, (Year). Article or Book Title. [Journal/Periodical Title, Volume Number/Date, Page Number(s).</span> <br />
Electronic Source: <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Author, N. N. (Year). Article Title. Data Referred. Source URL.</span> <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 7: Behaviour</span><br />
Language typically considered to be swearing is not condoned nor is character assassination.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Format</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Introduction</span><br />
The <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> debate referee will give a brief introduction to the debate mentioning the topic, the format, anticipated deadlines and give guidance as to how the protagonists should put their initial cases.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 0: Introductions</span><br />
Each protagonist will post introducing themselves and giving a brief overview of their intent and what they hope to achieve during the debate. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 1: Opening Statements ([Date])</span><br />
Each member of the debate makes an opening statement ([X words maximum]) on the debate topic. These are pre-prepared statements that outline (in essence) the protagonists understanding of the subject, what they believe to be true. Each response will be posted as a separate posting in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 1" e.g. "ROUND 1: Debater #1's Opening Statement"<br />
<br />
ROUND 2: Response To Opening Statements ([Date])<br />
Each team member replies to the opening statement/s of the opposing team member/s ([X words maximum]). This section is more free-form and deals with the points raised by their adversaries and explain why they consider their adversary's POV to be incorrect. Each response will be posted as a reply to their own opening statement in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 2" e.g. "ROUND 2: Debater #2's Response To Debater #1's Opening Statement"<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 3: Response #2 ([Date])</span><br />
Each team member replies to the first response/s of the opposing team member/s (X words maximum). Each response will be posted as a reply to their own response in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 3" e.g. "ROUND 3: Debater #1's  Response To Debater #2's Response"<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 4: Summary ([Date])</span><br />
Each team member replies to the second response/s of the opposing team member/s (X words maximum). Again this is free-form but length limited which allows each protagonists to sum up their case and state why they consider their adversary to be incorrect. Each response will be posted as a reply to their own second response in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 4" e.g. "ROUND 4: Debater #2's Summary"</blockquote>
<br />
Tell me mum I done me best ... OK, open for comment. <br />
<br />
Kyu]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The following are a set of rules I propose for debates within this forum, obviously my basis of thought at present is my upcoming debate with Frodo but I have tried to generalise as much as possible. These originally derive from some science debate rules I authored some time ago but in view of the fact that theists don't seem to see many things from the POV as atheists (nor metaphycisists and materialists) and that that would unfairly hobble the arguments of those from less materialist/atheist camps I have tried to remove anything from them that will disadvantage them.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Kyuuketsuki</span></span><br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Notes</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Protagonists</span><br />
An <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> debate will typically require two protagonists or teams of protagonists. There is no reason why more teams cannot be involved but all teams must be equally matched in numbers.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Referee</span><br />
A referee will be appointed. A referee's role is to oversee the organisation of the debate, to introduce it and to manage the debate as it progresses. Debate management will cover the following:<ul class="mycode_list"></li>
<li>Setting deadlines.<br />
</li>
<li>Handling postponements.<br />
</li>
<li>Ensuring compliance to the rules<br />
</li>
<li>Terminating the debate in the event of a fault<br />
</li>
<li>Ensuring the debate stays on topic</li></ul>
Note that a referee is not required to judge the validity of various protagonists' arguments but sets the structure for the debate (based on these notes), handles queries from protagonists. A referee can only award a debate to a particular protagonist if the other fails to adhere to the rules. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Judges</span><br />
These will not normally be required but, if requested by all involved  parties will decide on who wins the debate based on merit of arguments given. No judges will be allowed to abstain and there will normally be multiple judges (odd numbers).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Forums</span><br />
The debate exists separately to all other discussions and protagonists are asked not to refer to previous discussions in any form i.e. that something was stated in forum (external to the debate) at any other point is considered irrelevant to the debate (internally).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Discussion</span><br />
Other <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> are free to discuss the debate but must do so outside of the debate forum.  <br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Rules</span><br />
The following are a suggested set of rules and ones upon which observers will be evaluating the protagonists arguments and behaviour. Debates are (or should be) more about content than about quick or direct responses (as would happen in normal forum discussion) so time to respond is a key factor. It should be understood that there is no need to quote the opposing member's statements as they will be available at all times. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 1: Participation</span><br />
All protagonists (or teams of protagonists) must agree to fully participate in the discussion and to follow through on points made by their adversaries ... not dealing with a specific point may be seen as a weakness in an argument.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 2: Relevance</span><br />
All points within the debate should be relevant to the debate topic or clear responses to points raised by other protagonists. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 3: Rebuttals</span><br />
It is unacceptable to "blow off" a considered, point-by-point refutation of a protagonist's answer with a few short lines unless those points are actually relevant to and deal with the points they are understood to be responding to.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 4: Quotes</span><br />
Whilst protagonists are allowed to quote other sources, such quotes should not be overused and should be brief, relevant, in context and referenced (if possible to source).<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 5: Plagiarism</span><br />
All protagonists must answer the posts in their own words, the use of URL's should be restricted to references and copy/pasted articles and/or plagiarism is not acceptable. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 6: References</span><br />
All sources used should be listed at the end of the statement and can be considered separate from any formal word counts.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Examples:</span> <br />
Book/Journal: <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Author, N. N, (Year). Article or Book Title. [Journal/Periodical Title, Volume Number/Date, Page Number(s).</span> <br />
Electronic Source: <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Author, N. N. (Year). Article Title. Data Referred. Source URL.</span> <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">RULE 7: Behaviour</span><br />
Language typically considered to be swearing is not condoned nor is character assassination.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Debate Format</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Introduction</span><br />
The <a href="http://atheistforums.org/index.php" target="_blank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Atheist Forums</a> debate referee will give a brief introduction to the debate mentioning the topic, the format, anticipated deadlines and give guidance as to how the protagonists should put their initial cases.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 0: Introductions</span><br />
Each protagonist will post introducing themselves and giving a brief overview of their intent and what they hope to achieve during the debate. <br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 1: Opening Statements ([Date])</span><br />
Each member of the debate makes an opening statement ([X words maximum]) on the debate topic. These are pre-prepared statements that outline (in essence) the protagonists understanding of the subject, what they believe to be true. Each response will be posted as a separate posting in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 1" e.g. "ROUND 1: Debater #1's Opening Statement"<br />
<br />
ROUND 2: Response To Opening Statements ([Date])<br />
Each team member replies to the opening statement/s of the opposing team member/s ([X words maximum]). This section is more free-form and deals with the points raised by their adversaries and explain why they consider their adversary's POV to be incorrect. Each response will be posted as a reply to their own opening statement in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 2" e.g. "ROUND 2: Debater #2's Response To Debater #1's Opening Statement"<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 3: Response #2 ([Date])</span><br />
Each team member replies to the first response/s of the opposing team member/s (X words maximum). Each response will be posted as a reply to their own response in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 3" e.g. "ROUND 3: Debater #1's  Response To Debater #2's Response"<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">ROUND 4: Summary ([Date])</span><br />
Each team member replies to the second response/s of the opposing team member/s (X words maximum). Again this is free-form but length limited which allows each protagonists to sum up their case and state why they consider their adversary to be incorrect. Each response will be posted as a reply to their own second response in the debate forum clearly stating in the title that it is "ROUND 4" e.g. "ROUND 4: Debater #2's Summary"</blockquote>
<br />
Tell me mum I done me best ... OK, open for comment. <br />
<br />
Kyu]]></content:encoded>
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