<![CDATA[Atheist Forums - Other Religions]]> https://atheistforums.org/ Fri, 15 May 2026 18:39:00 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Is Zionism a Spiritual Phenomenon?]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-66453.html Sun, 08 Jun 2025 13:31:34 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-66453.html  
The only think I am seeing there is a Rhodesia / Ancient South-Africa style “Jewish” state apparatus that is trying to colonize all of Palestine in a slow and gradual manner because the current world order is not allowing Israel to simply take over the whole place and say “This is my country now so away with all of you”.
 
My second opinion on this is that the Salafist movement is very likely something that works for and in concert with this Zionist movement. Once you have de-secularized all Muslim Nations it’s easy to portray all these population as savages so that you can promote neo-colonialist and racist approaches because these are savages that need to be humanized in some way. That’s something I remember from my history classes. The main ideology behind the colonial empires in the 18th and 19th century is this “Mission civilizatrice” that give the right to European invaders the right to invade and subdue basically all other civilizations of the planet.
 
I had thought that this ideology had vanished (starting from the 1950’s and until the late 70’s). But this is not true. Israel has turned into a colonialist power and is claiming all of Gaza for itself.
 
So today Greta was stopped by Israeli authorities while trying to break the food blockade imposed by Israel on the Gazan Population:
 
  https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-says-b...34695.html
 
No matter what Mr. Netanyahu Says or does, the situation there is unsustainable. It’s like the Salafist Rulers of Iran. The only way to sustain this is by killing and killing and killing and killing.
 
We live in a world in which we have very pertinent philosophical, legal and political approaches to solve such endless conflicts. 1) We have systems that allow large groups of humans (called nations) to live together without endless power struggles and/or oppression of any part of these populations.
 
We also have international systems (that are not so inefficient) that are laying down a theoretical basis for different nations to live peacefully with one another.
 
So this Bolsonarist approach in Israel is simply not going to work. There will be no Riviera and all of these (yes) very primitive people are not going to vanish into thin air. So instead of working with the Salafists the world needs to work against them and the Jewish community in the world (which is a strong power on its own) needs to reconsider what they are currently doing to themselves actually.
 
There are no hopeless situations in this world. Only hopeless individuals (that how I see it)  Cool]]>  
The only think I am seeing there is a Rhodesia / Ancient South-Africa style “Jewish” state apparatus that is trying to colonize all of Palestine in a slow and gradual manner because the current world order is not allowing Israel to simply take over the whole place and say “This is my country now so away with all of you”.
 
My second opinion on this is that the Salafist movement is very likely something that works for and in concert with this Zionist movement. Once you have de-secularized all Muslim Nations it’s easy to portray all these population as savages so that you can promote neo-colonialist and racist approaches because these are savages that need to be humanized in some way. That’s something I remember from my history classes. The main ideology behind the colonial empires in the 18th and 19th century is this “Mission civilizatrice” that give the right to European invaders the right to invade and subdue basically all other civilizations of the planet.
 
I had thought that this ideology had vanished (starting from the 1950’s and until the late 70’s). But this is not true. Israel has turned into a colonialist power and is claiming all of Gaza for itself.
 
So today Greta was stopped by Israeli authorities while trying to break the food blockade imposed by Israel on the Gazan Population:
 
  https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-says-b...34695.html
 
No matter what Mr. Netanyahu Says or does, the situation there is unsustainable. It’s like the Salafist Rulers of Iran. The only way to sustain this is by killing and killing and killing and killing.
 
We live in a world in which we have very pertinent philosophical, legal and political approaches to solve such endless conflicts. 1) We have systems that allow large groups of humans (called nations) to live together without endless power struggles and/or oppression of any part of these populations.
 
We also have international systems (that are not so inefficient) that are laying down a theoretical basis for different nations to live peacefully with one another.
 
So this Bolsonarist approach in Israel is simply not going to work. There will be no Riviera and all of these (yes) very primitive people are not going to vanish into thin air. So instead of working with the Salafists the world needs to work against them and the Jewish community in the world (which is a strong power on its own) needs to reconsider what they are currently doing to themselves actually.
 
There are no hopeless situations in this world. Only hopeless individuals (that how I see it)  Cool]]> <![CDATA[Mormonism Is The Correct Answer!]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-66167.html Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:42:47 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-66167.html
However, other than the occasional knock on the door, they don't seem to get much time in the spotlight when compared to other religions, except for the usual newsworthy crimes and lunacy that define most of them.

Lately, though, beyond the insanity there has been some focus on Mormons as a topic of discussion. For example, there is an upcoming horror movie called Heretic where they knock on the door and end up being tortured in the basement by a psychopath (a former member, perhaps?) who gives them a VERY interesting religious choice to make, which alone would make for an interesting thread here once the movie has come out. I've only seen the trailer so far, but it looks interesting.

Then there is the new chain of soda cafes specific to Mormons, who are not allowed to drink coffee, tea or alcohol (another stupid religious rule for the masses to follow). So, in a few years you'll see a lot more diabetic Mormons with amputated legs in Utah. Hope they have good insurance!

Years ago my cousin almost converted until they informed him he couldn't see his own children unless they converted too!

I only have one personal encounter worth mentioning. I used to invite them in my house just to mess with them and over the course of a few weeks I learned their particular method of indoctrination and started presenting my own specific points AGAINST Mormonism (not religion in general, but just theirs) until they stopped coming back. Months later they were in another town and ended up at my aunt's door and she invited them in to be friendly. According to my aunt, in the living room they noticed my graduation photo hanging on the wall and one pointed at it and said "That man was the closest I've ever come to questioning my faith!". That moment is a particular source of pride to me in all my years of dealing with religious nutters.

So, do you feel it's now time for Mormons to finally get their due? And by "due" I mean more mainstream ridicule and less hiding in the shadows until the next news story comes up....]]>
However, other than the occasional knock on the door, they don't seem to get much time in the spotlight when compared to other religions, except for the usual newsworthy crimes and lunacy that define most of them.

Lately, though, beyond the insanity there has been some focus on Mormons as a topic of discussion. For example, there is an upcoming horror movie called Heretic where they knock on the door and end up being tortured in the basement by a psychopath (a former member, perhaps?) who gives them a VERY interesting religious choice to make, which alone would make for an interesting thread here once the movie has come out. I've only seen the trailer so far, but it looks interesting.

Then there is the new chain of soda cafes specific to Mormons, who are not allowed to drink coffee, tea or alcohol (another stupid religious rule for the masses to follow). So, in a few years you'll see a lot more diabetic Mormons with amputated legs in Utah. Hope they have good insurance!

Years ago my cousin almost converted until they informed him he couldn't see his own children unless they converted too!

I only have one personal encounter worth mentioning. I used to invite them in my house just to mess with them and over the course of a few weeks I learned their particular method of indoctrination and started presenting my own specific points AGAINST Mormonism (not religion in general, but just theirs) until they stopped coming back. Months later they were in another town and ended up at my aunt's door and she invited them in to be friendly. According to my aunt, in the living room they noticed my graduation photo hanging on the wall and one pointed at it and said "That man was the closest I've ever come to questioning my faith!". That moment is a particular source of pride to me in all my years of dealing with religious nutters.

So, do you feel it's now time for Mormons to finally get their due? And by "due" I mean more mainstream ridicule and less hiding in the shadows until the next news story comes up....]]> <![CDATA[General seeking knowledge of fasting rituals related to ANY religion]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65858.html Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:22:23 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65858.html
More simply, why did Islam, Christians, and Hindus all engender a fasting ritual into some sort of demand period whether you liked it or not, because it was your "peoples" thing, and I would put thing in quotes too, but its the more vulnerable of subject words compared to peoples who fast with Hijabs for a helluva a lot more than 72 reasons.

Thanks]]>
More simply, why did Islam, Christians, and Hindus all engender a fasting ritual into some sort of demand period whether you liked it or not, because it was your "peoples" thing, and I would put thing in quotes too, but its the more vulnerable of subject words compared to peoples who fast with Hijabs for a helluva a lot more than 72 reasons.

Thanks]]> <![CDATA[Seeking accredited history of the Hebrew characters...]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65829.html Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:10:45 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65829.html
So is the Torah a wrilting that could be usurped if one was able to read the entire writings of Moses in one tongue that is EXACTLY pronounced as the lr/rl holds true integrity to, yet the observers concluded that overwhelmingly, the scrolls birth right was transfered to a re-approved "davidic" line ?]]>
So is the Torah a wrilting that could be usurped if one was able to read the entire writings of Moses in one tongue that is EXACTLY pronounced as the lr/rl holds true integrity to, yet the observers concluded that overwhelmingly, the scrolls birth right was transfered to a re-approved "davidic" line ?]]> <![CDATA[Fake Gurus]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65667.html Sat, 02 Dec 2023 15:35:48 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65667.html    I found this very interesting article in the news today:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-yoga-gur...00318.html
 


 
SO most of us are not fooled by anyone like these people and do not abuse anyone in that way. I think most of us have reached that level from the mid 10’s onward. Or that’s how I perceive it  Cool ]]>    I found this very interesting article in the news today:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-yoga-gur...00318.html
 


 
SO most of us are not fooled by anyone like these people and do not abuse anyone in that way. I think most of us have reached that level from the mid 10’s onward. Or that’s how I perceive it  Cool ]]> <![CDATA[Prove the Arisians don't exist.]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65590.html Tue, 07 Nov 2023 03:08:32 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65590.html <![CDATA[Does anyone have links for this reference source?]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65575.html Sun, 29 Oct 2023 23:39:46 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65575.html
I met this dude in the park who told me about a person that lives on earth today with us and could at quick glance resemble a mortal human, but in fact they are the only living testament to mortal bodies of the only immortal one in existence. A lot to swallow right? It is an extraordinary claim and responded by demanded the evidence to match it. This dude said that the key to their immortality that presents a mortal absolute is tied up in where we are in relation to how much they (the one and only almighty lord of all lords) are able in actuality be able to prove their immortality much further than outliving each and every human on earth and promising to never allow them to have the fun of warp drive capabilities simply because they have an ongoing wardrobe dispute with captain kirk.

Do you know of any references of this person existing because they showed me a picture of them that is widely availibe online because it was actually several parts of several movies... so I know THEY exist, but in terms of if THEY are the only true immortal and the rest is up to their allowance letting us on in the secret and/or protecting us from its curse... I still don't get them that way because this guy said their creative narrative dovetails with prophecies from daniel and revelation where one active isolated creative force was actaully able to walk outside of the ocean fully assembled to breath without gills uninstalled and feet sowed on before the couple bill it took for them finally tear that mitt into some working falangies... does anyone know what im talking about?

Shouldn't they have at least one website where they creation narrative tracks with what a JW.org larp would deam "too worldly" to acknowledge inside their vaunted http link?

ANybody? HELP!!!!!!]]>
I met this dude in the park who told me about a person that lives on earth today with us and could at quick glance resemble a mortal human, but in fact they are the only living testament to mortal bodies of the only immortal one in existence. A lot to swallow right? It is an extraordinary claim and responded by demanded the evidence to match it. This dude said that the key to their immortality that presents a mortal absolute is tied up in where we are in relation to how much they (the one and only almighty lord of all lords) are able in actuality be able to prove their immortality much further than outliving each and every human on earth and promising to never allow them to have the fun of warp drive capabilities simply because they have an ongoing wardrobe dispute with captain kirk.

Do you know of any references of this person existing because they showed me a picture of them that is widely availibe online because it was actually several parts of several movies... so I know THEY exist, but in terms of if THEY are the only true immortal and the rest is up to their allowance letting us on in the secret and/or protecting us from its curse... I still don't get them that way because this guy said their creative narrative dovetails with prophecies from daniel and revelation where one active isolated creative force was actaully able to walk outside of the ocean fully assembled to breath without gills uninstalled and feet sowed on before the couple bill it took for them finally tear that mitt into some working falangies... does anyone know what im talking about?

Shouldn't they have at least one website where they creation narrative tracks with what a JW.org larp would deam "too worldly" to acknowledge inside their vaunted http link?

ANybody? HELP!!!!!!]]> <![CDATA[Jagadish Vasudev's Insights on the Vicious Cicle of Religious Violence in Palestine]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65542.html Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:56:31 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65542.html    This Sadhguru or Jagadish Vasudev is constantly reminding me why the Hippies of the 1960’s undertook all this effort to go to such remote place like Nepal or India or other places in order to find some sort of spirituality that was good enough to be brought back home.
 
   Being known as a very rational or even Cartesian person I think his explanation on the whole issue of violence and religious violence are very good. I think we all need some sort of break from the intensity of negative events that have been happening since October the 10th so I’m going to share two very interesting videos of him.
 
   Anyone who has any comment on these should share his/her ideas. In fact what I like about him is that his ideas are more philosophical ideas than old style dogmatic / scholastic ideas. So I don’t have any sharing these videos even in an atheistic platform.







]]>    This Sadhguru or Jagadish Vasudev is constantly reminding me why the Hippies of the 1960’s undertook all this effort to go to such remote place like Nepal or India or other places in order to find some sort of spirituality that was good enough to be brought back home.
 
   Being known as a very rational or even Cartesian person I think his explanation on the whole issue of violence and religious violence are very good. I think we all need some sort of break from the intensity of negative events that have been happening since October the 10th so I’m going to share two very interesting videos of him.
 
   Anyone who has any comment on these should share his/her ideas. In fact what I like about him is that his ideas are more philosophical ideas than old style dogmatic / scholastic ideas. So I don’t have any sharing these videos even in an atheistic platform.







]]> <![CDATA[I wanted to be a JW but I flunked finals]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65336.html Tue, 22 Aug 2023 03:05:53 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65336.html ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Opinions on paganism?]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-65301.html Thu, 17 Aug 2023 09:34:35 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-65301.html ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Origin of April Fools?]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64922.html Sat, 01 Apr 2023 15:15:25 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64922.html
Enlighten me with your smarts collage graduated plebs. I assume Loki will get a refence before three or four posts.]]>
Enlighten me with your smarts collage graduated plebs. I assume Loki will get a refence before three or four posts.]]> <![CDATA[Hindu vs Christain]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64919.html Sat, 01 Apr 2023 10:14:53 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64919.html
Why, if your one or the other, don't you believe in one or the other? 

For example. Why isn't Brahma (the creator) not the same as Jesus or Yayweh? What is Vishnu? Durga, Shiva and the rest? Why aren't these other entities explained? Or, do they not exist? Just like Zeus and Oden?]]>
Why, if your one or the other, don't you believe in one or the other? 

For example. Why isn't Brahma (the creator) not the same as Jesus or Yayweh? What is Vishnu? Durga, Shiva and the rest? Why aren't these other entities explained? Or, do they not exist? Just like Zeus and Oden?]]> <![CDATA[Why aren't Little People (Dwarfs) in more religions?]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64917.html Sat, 01 Apr 2023 09:16:06 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64917.html
Super curious. Thanks!]]>
Super curious. Thanks!]]> <![CDATA[Tom Cruise conundrum]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64831.html Wed, 25 Jan 2023 02:24:03 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64831.html
Now some will say that people (Tom Cruise) have a right to their religion, and this is where the conundrum lies. But Cruise is not just a member of that religion, he is pretty much its head, and that religion is exploiting people to their demise and as such could spectacularly backfire on not just Scientology but a society that rewards people like Tom Cruise.

So maybe there is no solution but to let things go as they are. Or maybe there could be pressure on Tom Cruise and Scientology to become transparent about what they are doing, but since they would not do that and since there is not anyone who would press them, it seems useless. We are talking about people who publicly attack their ex-members.]]>
Now some will say that people (Tom Cruise) have a right to their religion, and this is where the conundrum lies. But Cruise is not just a member of that religion, he is pretty much its head, and that religion is exploiting people to their demise and as such could spectacularly backfire on not just Scientology but a society that rewards people like Tom Cruise.

So maybe there is no solution but to let things go as they are. Or maybe there could be pressure on Tom Cruise and Scientology to become transparent about what they are doing, but since they would not do that and since there is not anyone who would press them, it seems useless. We are talking about people who publicly attack their ex-members.]]> <![CDATA[Question about polytheistic gods]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64684.html Tue, 29 Nov 2022 11:37:12 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64684.html

This is my question… I am curious about learning more in how these gods manifested into being venerated. Are they just stories based off of humans that lived with exaggerated myths attached? Were humans living with other humans without understanding DNA and speciation and looking at fellow humans in a godly way?

I hope that question makes sense. Take Artemis for example. Did someone just pull out of their ass the myth about her, or was there really a human living amongst the elite that had exaggerated tales written about her?]]>

This is my question… I am curious about learning more in how these gods manifested into being venerated. Are they just stories based off of humans that lived with exaggerated myths attached? Were humans living with other humans without understanding DNA and speciation and looking at fellow humans in a godly way?

I hope that question makes sense. Take Artemis for example. Did someone just pull out of their ass the myth about her, or was there really a human living amongst the elite that had exaggerated tales written about her?]]> <![CDATA[On Tuesday, the LDS (Mormon) church gave its support to recent pro-LGBTQ legislation]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64624.html Fri, 18 Nov 2022 09:22:44 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64624.html Administrator Notice
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]]> <![CDATA[BoM]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64612.html Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:09:14 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64612.html <![CDATA[1 Nephi]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64590.html Sun, 06 Nov 2022 13:27:22 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64590.html
Nephi describes a vision that his father Lehi had in the first year of the reign of king Zedekiah, king of Judah, after which his father went around as a prophet declaring that Jerusalem would be destroyed and its inhabitants carried away captive.

Well, that wasn’t too much of a stretch, because just prior to that vision, in March 597 B.C.E., the neo-Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II had already captured Jerusalem and took eighteen year-old king Jeconiah into captivity after a reign of only three months and ten days. Then Nebbie installed Zedekiah as king over Jerusalem.

At any rate, Lehi takes his family down to Saudi Arabia, and they camp near the banks of a river that continually runs into the Red Sea. This river is reached after just three days of attaining the Gulf of Aqaba. Traveling on foot with a family and livestock, you can make at best fifteen miles per day. This previously undiscovered and unknown river, which was subsequently named the River Laman after one of Lehi’s sons, must therefore be within fifty miles of the twin cities of Eilat, Israel a nd Aqaba, Jordan. So scarce is water in this hot, arid region that today Eilat relies on desalination. Even the valley where Eilat and Aqaba lie, the chief population center of this region, is a wadi, a dry gulch that only carries water on the very rare occasion that it rains, and only for a matter of days, if not hours. A river that continually ran into the Red Sea, so near the ancient trade routes between east and west, would have been a prize, a true gem, and the site of a great city.  There’s nothing in history, outside of the book of Mormon, that says such a river ever existed. And a look at Google Maps shows that there’s no valley to speak of, certainly nothing with big enough britches to have been carved by a river.

The whole journey is a test by God to see if people would believe that Lehi, a punk off the street with no credentials, really could tell the future. Because that’s all a prophet is in the book of Mormon, not a social reformer, not a commentator on the current zeitgeist and one who tries to get people to see the inevitable consequences of their actions, but just somebody who was given a dream by God of the future. And the crux of the test is to believe, beforehand, that a man from the fringe of society is chosen by God, with no other sign than the very destruction that he’s predicting as punishment for not believing in it.

The people of Jerusalem did not believe the city would be destroyed. They even tried to kill Lehi just for even saying it would be sacked, so they were cursed. Then God punished them for rejecting Lehi as a psychic by letting Nebuchadnezzar destroy Jerusalem and frog-march the elites to captivity in the Babylonian capitol.

Lehi’s sons Laman and Lemuel also did not believe that Jerusalem would be destroyed, so they were cursed by God, and this curse took the form of dark skin for their descendants, because the Book of Mormon was written by a racist who thought the human adaption of melanin to deal with the harsh light of the sun was a bad thing.

But Sam and Nephi did believe that Jerusalem would be destroyed, so they were blessed with white skin. A land flowing with milk and honey was prepared just for them far over the sea.]]>
Nephi describes a vision that his father Lehi had in the first year of the reign of king Zedekiah, king of Judah, after which his father went around as a prophet declaring that Jerusalem would be destroyed and its inhabitants carried away captive.

Well, that wasn’t too much of a stretch, because just prior to that vision, in March 597 B.C.E., the neo-Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II had already captured Jerusalem and took eighteen year-old king Jeconiah into captivity after a reign of only three months and ten days. Then Nebbie installed Zedekiah as king over Jerusalem.

At any rate, Lehi takes his family down to Saudi Arabia, and they camp near the banks of a river that continually runs into the Red Sea. This river is reached after just three days of attaining the Gulf of Aqaba. Traveling on foot with a family and livestock, you can make at best fifteen miles per day. This previously undiscovered and unknown river, which was subsequently named the River Laman after one of Lehi’s sons, must therefore be within fifty miles of the twin cities of Eilat, Israel a nd Aqaba, Jordan. So scarce is water in this hot, arid region that today Eilat relies on desalination. Even the valley where Eilat and Aqaba lie, the chief population center of this region, is a wadi, a dry gulch that only carries water on the very rare occasion that it rains, and only for a matter of days, if not hours. A river that continually ran into the Red Sea, so near the ancient trade routes between east and west, would have been a prize, a true gem, and the site of a great city.  There’s nothing in history, outside of the book of Mormon, that says such a river ever existed. And a look at Google Maps shows that there’s no valley to speak of, certainly nothing with big enough britches to have been carved by a river.

The whole journey is a test by God to see if people would believe that Lehi, a punk off the street with no credentials, really could tell the future. Because that’s all a prophet is in the book of Mormon, not a social reformer, not a commentator on the current zeitgeist and one who tries to get people to see the inevitable consequences of their actions, but just somebody who was given a dream by God of the future. And the crux of the test is to believe, beforehand, that a man from the fringe of society is chosen by God, with no other sign than the very destruction that he’s predicting as punishment for not believing in it.

The people of Jerusalem did not believe the city would be destroyed. They even tried to kill Lehi just for even saying it would be sacked, so they were cursed. Then God punished them for rejecting Lehi as a psychic by letting Nebuchadnezzar destroy Jerusalem and frog-march the elites to captivity in the Babylonian capitol.

Lehi’s sons Laman and Lemuel also did not believe that Jerusalem would be destroyed, so they were cursed by God, and this curse took the form of dark skin for their descendants, because the Book of Mormon was written by a racist who thought the human adaption of melanin to deal with the harsh light of the sun was a bad thing.

But Sam and Nephi did believe that Jerusalem would be destroyed, so they were blessed with white skin. A land flowing with milk and honey was prepared just for them far over the sea.]]> <![CDATA[masterbation transcendence religion]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64181.html Tue, 24 May 2022 06:29:43 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64181.html It certainly would add a twist to life if it were true.]]> It certainly would add a twist to life if it were true.]]> <![CDATA[Last thursdayism]]> https://atheistforums.org/thread-64180.html Tue, 24 May 2022 06:22:04 +0000 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64180.html Ok I don't really believe this but it makes as much sense as any of the other religions and with this version of last thursdayism you can have wednesday parties every other wednesday.]]> Ok I don't really believe this but it makes as much sense as any of the other religions and with this version of last thursdayism you can have wednesday parties every other wednesday.]]>