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Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 8:31 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 8:50 am)A Theist Wrote: It's electric.

Won't be if Mexico does not pay the electricity bill.

Isolated padding or simple means short circuiting it or redirecting the flow
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 8:42 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: It's really not an invasion, it's a way to destroy a culture from within to the point they lower their defenses and eventually destroy themselves. You should watch that video. I'm speaking as a former leftist who used to push a lot of what I know now to be leftist propaganda.
Just stop, you have no ability to gauge your audience, as though pretending to be or even -being- a former "leftist" would mean anything to me.

Quote:The more I researched, the more the left I identified with resented me,
Maybe you're an easily resented acquaintance?

Quote:to the point that I found conservatives understood the threat much better then those who were being led by "socialist equality" which I found out was a scam by the ultra rich to control the poor.
....you found that out....because "the left" resented you?  I think what you're trying to say here is that you spiraled into neatly pre-packaged paranoia.

Quote:Those that rant against nationalism are the ones who are a threat to the nation. They are reckless and don't understand how important it is for national unity, solidarity, and freedom.
You think nationalism is important for all of that?  Gee, how -have- I managed to stumble my way through life not requiring any batshit nationalist propaganda?  

Quote:The US has a lot of freedoms for citizens, along with the self preservation of prosperity,
Not for long, your boy is seeing to that.

Quote:I really wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
-and the rest of the world breathed a collective sigh of relief.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thanks for the response scoob. And I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how the wall will help keep people from sneaking over the border. I know you said it's just "one thing" but it's one very expensive thing. Spending so much money on something that probably won't do anything to help seems very foolish and a huge waste. Don't you agree that anyone who wants to get through it will be able to do so just fine?
Roughly 59% of the illegal immigrants in the US are from Mexico, which is why the wall on the southern border makes a lot more sense then it does to make one on the northern border with Canada.
http://immigration.procon.org/view.resou...eID=000845
That being said, there are other ways to get in. 20 billion although sounds like a lottery jackpot is not that much money in the form of an investment. When you avoid illegals coming in and sending money back to their home countries, you start to have citizens work for those jobs, and since business pays for labor they are going to finally have to pay a higher wage. This will translate into higher prices in some industry, but will be offset by trade, and wages of the consumer. We have a major trade deficit with Mexico since NAFTA was signed. Billions of dollars per year. If we could get to a trade surplus by bringing manufacturing here, which is already being planned, we will start to get rid of the national debt, and build local economies bringing success to this country. It's not about race, it's about national preservation. 
Although you never pull the race card, as a former leftist, I understand why the left does. It's a way to shut down opposition to viewpoints. A border wall is simply common sense for national economic security which benefits all citizens. The left are like teenagers who use the families wealth to by drugs, and leave the door unlocked when they come home drunk and go sleep in the basement because they don't have jobs and really no loyalty to the family unit.

(January 26, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 8:42 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: It's really not an invasion, it's a way to destroy a culture from within to the point they lower their defenses and eventually destroy themselves. You should watch that video. I'm speaking as a former leftist who used to push a lot of what I know now to be leftist propaganda.
Just stop, you have no ability to gauge your audience, as though pretending to be or even -being- a former "leftist" would mean anything to me.

Quote:The more I researched, the more the left I identified with resented me,
Maybe you're an easily resented acquaintance?

Quote:to the point that I found conservatives understood the threat much better then those who were being led by "socialist equality" which I found out was a scam by the ultra rich to control the poor.
....you found that out....because "the left" resented you?  I think what you're trying to say here is that you spiraled into neatly pre-packaged paranoia.

Quote:Those that rant against nationalism are the ones who are a threat to the nation. They are reckless and don't understand how important it is for national unity, solidarity, and freedom.
You think nationalism is important for all of that?  Gee, how -have- I managed to stumble my way through life not requiring any batshit nationalist propaganda?  

Quote:The US has a lot of freedoms for citizens, along with the self preservation of prosperity,
Not for long, your boy is seeing to that.

Quote:I really wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
-and the rest of the world breathed a collective sigh of relief.

Have to ask, what country are you from, and where do you currently live?
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 9:02 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Have to ask, what country are you from, and where do you currently live?

Do you, do you have to ask that?  No wonder you went about this the wrong way.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 9:02 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Have to ask, what country are you from, and where do you currently live?

Do you, do you have to ask that?  No wonder you went about this the wrong way.

Checked your profile which says you are from the US. Why are you against border security?
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
Am I?  After having the opportunity to delegitimize my comments by questioning the status of my birth robbed from you...that was the best you had left?

I'm against subsidizing your racist paranoia to the tune of billions.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 9:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Am I?  After having the opportunity to delegitimize my comments by questioning the status of my birth robbed from you...that was the best you had left?

Hey, you are refusing to answer a simple question, so I'm just trying to find out the context of your ideology.

You should explain how it's racist to protect national borders instead of assuming it's a forgone conclusion that borders are racist. Are we all not part of the human race? Does culture not factor into anything? The laws of the land, the constitution etc?
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 9:37 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Hey, you are refusing to answer a simple question, so I'm just trying to find out the context of your ideology.
Sure you are, lol.  

Quote:You should explain how it's racist to protect national borders instead of assuming it's a forgone conclusion that borders are racist.
Why should I, when I made no such claim?  You're just the kind of dolt that thinks that this deflection is somehow relevant. You, are a racist, this wall and the rhetoric surrounding it, is racist, the executive order signed by our president...is racist. Borders are just lines on a map...they have no ability to -be- racist.

Quote:Are we all not part of the human race? Does culture not factor into anything? The laws of the land, the constitution etc?
Apparently not, what with your boy shitting on the human race, our culture, and the laws of our land in order to satisfy the least of us and largest part of himself. Guess that doesn't piss you off as much as mexicans do though, huh? Some nationalist, some nation.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 9:32 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Do you, do you have to ask that?  No wonder you went about this the wrong way.

Checked your profile which says you are from the US. Why are you against border security?

Because it would keep fucktards like you IN and keep lots of hard-working people OUT.
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RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
(January 26, 2017 at 2:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 26, 2017 at 1:55 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: If American workers are hired to build it, this would be a great investment to put Americans to work and the money would be reinvested in the local economies. Or Mexico could build it and put their citizens to work to help build their local economy. This is just the start of infrastructure spending and putting citizens back to work and building local economies.

It's ironic because Mexico is building their own wall to keep migrants from traveling through Mexico into the US, so not only would our wall help the US, it would help Mexico. It's a win win situation!

Mexico builds its own wall against migrants

Pressure builds for measures to stem flow of refugees from the south heading for US

https://www.ft.com/content/c316294a-7915...7294649b28

To clarify, are you saying then that the wall is a good idea only because it would give people a job while they build it? If so, is it reasonable to pay billions to build useless things only so that people will get paid doing it?

I've got a much better idea for all that money. It'll provide construction jobs for decades and maintenance and operation jobs for much, much longer. Build a mag-lev train line from L.A. to N.Y. (with plenty of N/S spurs) to help reduce the country's dependence on fossil fuels and increase security against terror attacks. A kind of modern "New Deal."

Somehow, I don't think Daffy is that forward thinking.
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