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Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
(March 2, 2017 at 7:03 am)pool the matey Wrote: The mysterious "question" that has defeated pool.


I'm not going to repeat it. This is not about victory or defeat, this is about earnest conversation. And you are signally refusing to have an earnest discussion.

I will not ever make the mistake of taking you for being sincere again.

I did not win anything. I lost a bit of time, and any confidence that you are willing to engage on an honest conversation. I hope everyone who has read this exchange keeps this is in mind when they deal with you.

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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
(March 2, 2017 at 7:17 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(March 1, 2017 at 10:28 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Then you should stop with your "Hurr durr Wimminz bodiez u dnt gt 2 say anytin!!" kind of arguments, a baby is not the property of a mother, once it is conceived it is it's own person and deserves the right like every other human to grow up and make decisions by itself on whether it want to live or die or whatever.

Unless the fetus' father is a rapist? If a fetus is "its own person" somehow - then so is one, that's a result of a rape - that clump of cells is no different, than the "regular" pregnancy. Yet you are happy to deny those "babies" ( Rolleyes ) the right to "grow up and make decisions by itself on whether it want to live or die or whatever". What did those fetuses do to you, or anybody? Can we also kill actual newborn babies, if they were fathered by rapists? No? Why not? According to you - they are no different from a few-weeks-old fetus.
I'm not pro-life or pro-choice. I support doing what is the most fair course of action in any scenario. 

It would be inhumane to force a woman to carry a child of her rapist, so I condemn it.
It would not be fair for a baby to be killed because of a "whoopsie", so I condone it.

There is no exact formula or exact course of action regardless of any circumstance, each circumstance is different and the action that is the most humane should be performed.
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: [...]
It would be inhumane to force a woman to carry a child of her rapist[...]

More inhumane than killing? A baby? Which is what you apparently believe abortion to be. 

(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: It would not be fair for a baby to be killed because of a "whoopsie", [...]

But it's "fair" to "kill a baby" because of some dude's crime?

(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: There is no exact formula or exact course of action regardless of any circumstance, each circumstance is different and the action that is the most humane should be performed.

How exactly do you measure and compare humanity? Is 9 months of suffering (plus whatever long term psychological consequences) of a woman worth more than a whole life of a human being?
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
I have no real comments to add to this age-old debate but out of curiosity, what is plural for a fetus?

"Fetuses" just sounds awkward to me, is "fetii" more correct?
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
Homless_Nutter Wrote:More inhumane than killing? A baby? Which is what you apparently believe abortion to be.
Yes.
Quote:But it's "fair" to "kill a baby" because of some dude's crime?
No. Only if the crime is rape and it results in a pregnancy.
Quote:Is 9 months of suffering (plus whatever long term psychological consequences) of a woman worth more than a whole life of a human being?
Depends on the circumstances.

I don't know what you're trying to pull here but this is pretty basic stuff. It doesn't take a genius to figure out it's not fair for a woman to be forced to carry a child of her rapist neither does it take a genius to figure out aborting babies because of trivial reasons like "soory whoops! lol" are not fair for the baby either.
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
I dropped off this one a few pages back. I would be better off with little rik.
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
Pool, say technology was developed to transfer a fetus to a man to carry. Meanwhile, a mother somewhere is unable to carry a fetus to term. Would you support forcing the father to carry it?
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
(March 2, 2017 at 2:29 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Pool, say technology was developed to transfer a fetus to a man to carry. Meanwhile, a mother somewhere is unable to carry a fetus to term. Would you support forcing the father to carry it?

A valiant thought exercise. Betwixt (new word to piss off Iroscato) all this you are better off talking to a pigeon.
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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
Don't you think it's about time for this?

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RE: Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News
(March 2, 2017 at 10:20 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 2, 2017 at 7:03 am)pool the matey Wrote: The mysterious "question" that has defeated pool.


I'm not going to repeat it. This is not about victory or defeat, this is about earnest conversation. And you are signally refusing to have an earnest discussion.

I will not ever make the mistake of taking you for being sincere again.

I did not win anything. I lost a bit of time, and any confidence that you are willing to engage on an honest conversation. I hope everyone who has read this exchange keeps this is in mind when they deal with you.

I know he was dishonest about this subject ages ago. Since the last time a debate about abortion popped up.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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