(March 2, 2017 at 7:17 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(March 1, 2017 at 10:28 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Then you should stop with your "Hurr durr Wimminz bodiez u dnt gt 2 say anytin!!" kind of arguments, a baby is not the property of a mother, once it is conceived it is it's own person and deserves the right like every other human to grow up and make decisions by itself on whether it want to live or die or whatever.

Unless the fetus' father is a rapist? If a fetus is "its own person" somehow - then so is one, that's a result of a rape - that clump of cells is no different, than the "regular" pregnancy. Yet you are happy to deny those "babies" ( ) the right to "grow up and make decisions by itself on whether it want to live or die or whatever". What did those fetuses do to you, or anybody? Can we also kill actual newborn babies, if they were fathered by rapists? No? Why not? According to you - they are no different from a few-weeks-old fetus.

I'm not pro-life or pro-choice. I support doing what is the most fair course of action in any scenario. 

It would be inhumane to force a woman to carry a child of her rapist, so I condemn it.
It would not be fair for a baby to be killed because of a "whoopsie", so I condone it.

There is no exact formula or exact course of action regardless of any circumstance, each circumstance is different and the action that is the most humane should be performed.

(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: [...]
It would be inhumane to force a woman to carry a child of her rapist[...]

More inhumane than killing? A baby? Which is what you apparently believe abortion to be. 

(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: It would not be fair for a baby to be killed because of a "whoopsie", [...]

But it's "fair" to "kill a baby" because of some dude's crime?

(March 2, 2017 at 10:26 am)pool the matey Wrote: There is no exact formula or exact course of action regardless of any circumstance, each circumstance is different and the action that is the most humane should be performed.

How exactly do you measure and compare humanity? Is 9 months of suffering (plus whatever long term psychological consequences) of a woman worth more than a whole life of a human being?

I have no real comments to add to this age-old debate but out of curiosity, what is plural for a fetus?

"Fetuses" just sounds awkward to me, is "fetii" more correct?

Homless_Nutter Wrote:More inhumane than killing? A baby? Which is what you apparently believe abortion to be.

Yes.

Quote:But it's "fair" to "kill a baby" because of some dude's crime?

No. Only if the crime is rape and it results in a pregnancy.

Quote:Is 9 months of suffering (plus whatever long term psychological consequences) of a woman worth more than a whole life of a human being?

Depends on the circumstances.

I don't know what you're trying to pull here but this is pretty basic stuff. It doesn't take a genius to figure out it's not fair for a woman to be forced to carry a child of her rapist neither does it take a genius to figure out aborting babies because of trivial reasons like "soory whoops! lol" are not fair for the baby either.

I dropped off this one a few pages back. I would be better off with little rik.

Pool, say technology was developed to transfer a fetus to a man to carry. Meanwhile, a mother somewhere is unable to carry a fetus to term. Would you support forcing the father to carry it?

(March 2, 2017 at 2:29 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Pool, say technology was developed to transfer a fetus to a man to carry. Meanwhile, a mother somewhere is unable to carry a fetus to term. Would you support forcing the father to carry it?

A valiant thought exercise. Betwixt (new word to piss off Iroscato) all this you are better off talking to a pigeon.

Don't you think it's about time for this?