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Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Because the evidence is actually materially there in actual reality. Where's the evidence of God on the other hand?
Loads of people believe in God but no actual evidence.
53% of Americans apparently reject evolution as you say, but there is actual evidence of evolution. Actual evidence is more important than just what anybody thinks. Some of the greatest scientific theories started with 1 person for instance didn't they? So are you saying that their theories should have been considered completely disproved, and stayed that way from the outset, since they were in such a tiny tiny tiny minority (1 person out of several billion)?
All I'm trying to say is, if evolutionists have gathered all of this brilliant information about evolution and they have stacks of evidence to support it, then why do so many people reject it as a lie? Religious reasons?
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:38 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Because the evidence is actually materially there in actual reality. Where's the evidence of God on the other hand?
Loads of people believe in God but no actual evidence.
53% of Americans apparently reject evolution as you say, but there is actual evidence of evolution. Actual evidence is more important than just what anybody thinks. Some of the greatest scientific theories started with 1 person for instance didn't they? So are you saying that their theories should have been considered completely disproved, and stayed that way from the outset, since they were in such a tiny tiny tiny minority (1 person out of several billion)?
All I'm trying to say is, if evolutionists have gathered all of this brilliant information about evolution and they have stacks of evidence to support it, then why do so many people reject it as a lie? Religious reasons?

I'd say denial.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:36 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:33 pm)LukeMC Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:27 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: Hows come Christians can see evidence of God, but atheists can't? Tongue

When we see this "evidence" we tend to think "you call that evidence?" Tongue

Actually, whilst we're on the subject, what would you say is the most obvious evidence for God? What is it that all of these American's can see which I cannot?
I would have to say the creation of human life. I believe there is no way possible that it happened by chance. That's my belief, and I'm sticking with it. Not to mention this enormous universe that must obey laws in order to survive. I believe all of these things are being controlled by God.

I'm not sure sure the universe has to obey these laws in order to survive, just that if there were different laws, it would look very, very different.
Creation of human life as evidence for God... It's certainly evidence for "the possibility of God", but only until we uncover all the facts.
Obviously the process of abiogenesis and the evolution that follows is a long, complex road. But if we do find the answers, you may be needing to retract your statement.
(December 6, 2008 at 2:40 pm)Ace Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:38 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:32 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Because the evidence is actually materially there in actual reality. Where's the evidence of God on the other hand?
Loads of people believe in God but no actual evidence.
53% of Americans apparently reject evolution as you say, but there is actual evidence of evolution. Actual evidence is more important than just what anybody thinks. Some of the greatest scientific theories started with 1 person for instance didn't they? So are you saying that their theories should have been considered completely disproved, and stayed that way from the outset, since they were in such a tiny tiny tiny minority (1 person out of several billion)?
All I'm trying to say is, if evolutionists have gathered all of this brilliant information about evolution and they have stacks of evidence to support it, then why do so many people reject it as a lie? Religious reasons?

I'd say denial.

Or stupidity.
My dad: "if we evolved from monkeys, why are they still here?"
Some people just don't get it. Undecided
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:36 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Montana Man? WTF is that? I presume you mean Nebraska Man.
Yes, I apologize, I stand corrected. But, what's the difference? Montana man, Ohio Man, Pennsylvania Man.. it was all one big fraud, right?

Quote:Evolutionists faked that evidence? Where is your evidence supporting that assertion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Man

[quote]Regardless of whether that is true or not (and I suspect not) there is a key point you idiots always miss and that is that it wasn't a religious researcher or creationist that exposed the fraud, it was scientists.
It doesn't matter who discovered it. The point is simple, it was forged to fool the world of science.

Quote:What that actually demonstrates is the simple fact that science is flexible, it is working exactly as it should and in that case evidence was uncovered that demonstrated something was not what may or may not have been believed (Nebraska Man was never actually classified as human in any real scientific publications) and a new theory is introduced.
Yes, Scientists are not God. They have erasers on their pencils.

Quote:It's only in the minds of idiots like you & Daystar that the fact that science can get it wrong is a problem! What fools you fail to understand is that science is effectively characterised by past mistakes, that it is those mistakes (and the fact that current explanation have not been exposed to be flawed) that give us the confidence to say, not that what we understand IS the right answer but that what we now understand is our current best explanation given the evidence available to us.
First off, what's with the name calling? Are we adults, or is this 4th grade? Did you know personal insults and name calling shows great signs of insecurity and low self-esteem?

Yes, Again, we already covered this part. Science makes mistakes, and they have to go back and try to figure out how they screwed up. They do not have the knowledge to understand everything, that's why they call it a "theory."
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:06 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Brilliant! Big Grin

Now lets see these photographs of God...Tongue
Ask and you shall receive. Tongue


[Image: god.jpg]

looks like an evil bastard if you ask me!
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
(December 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm)bozo Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 6, 2008 at 2:06 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Brilliant! Big Grin

Now lets see these photographs of God...Tongue
Ask and you shall receive. Tongue


[Image: god.jpg]

looks like an evil bastard if you ask me!

He has a huge bald patch behind his ear! God never did understand fashion Tongue
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
I think god would look so much better with a good shave and a haircut! Oh and a nice suit.Wink
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
Wow, so he IS just some guy with a beard Tongue
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
I think he's santa claws but just without the glasses, red clothing and reindeers.

Think about it, you never see him, there's no evidence of him, he's got a big beard and he flys....yep he's santa.Tongue
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
Hey Psalm, ask yourself who doesn't believe in evolution; those who have actually studied it and are working in biology, paleontology, and geology, or laymen who've been told what to believe.
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