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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(October 6, 2014 at 4:39 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: By condeming abortion I am giving a fetus their human rights to a life.
At the expense of someone else, something I don't think is justified.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm
What do you mean at the expense of some else?
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm
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(October 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: That is why I think it is wrong he murder of someone should never be easy.
This use of the word 'someone'. Are you implying that unborn foetuses are people? How do you define people? What is your definition of a person?
(October 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: What do you mean at the expense of some else?
Oh I don't know, the 9 months the foetuses spends being carried around by the woman, completely dependent on her for food and oxygen.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:04 pm
@ C4RM5...
Jesus did NOT say... "Go, and cause others not to sin."
Jesus DID say... "Go, and sin no more."
Walk humbly with your god, Put down the sword.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:05 pm
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See, to explain my defination you need to understand we didn't come from a fetus we were a fetus. By destrying a fetus you are stopping someone from living. Due to the fact that we use to be fetuses I belief a thing in any stage of this cycle is a human.
(October 6, 2014 at 5:04 pm)ShaMan Wrote: @C4RM5...
Jesus did NOT say... "Go, and cause others not to sin."
Jesus DID say... "Go, and sin no more."
Walk humbly with your god, Put down the sword.
What do you mean, I honestly hope that I am not causing others to sin I just said I would prefer that abortions didn't take place, I provided a mental image to convey my reasoning for my beliefs but I hope I didn't at any point say people should be allowed to do either.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:09 pm
(October 6, 2014 at 5:05 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: See, to explain my defination you need to understand we didn't come from a fetus we were a fetus. By destrying a fetus you are stopping someone from living. Due to the fact that we use to be fetuses I belief a thing in any stage of this cycle is a human.
And I'm saying none of that matters. What it comes down to is which is more important? Bodily autonomy of a woman, the choice to carry another living being or not; or the extinguishing of a potential life? For me, it's bodily autonomy every time. If you ban abortions, then you are taking away a womans bodily autonomy and are just essentially turning her into a baby factory.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:11 pm
Does not having sex stops someone from living? What about masturbation?
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:12 pm
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We don't live in a perfect world, but if we did no one would need an abortion. To me it seems a bit self centred. If a woman doesn't want to feel uncomfortable for 9 months it is then perfectly legal to kill an unborn child.
(October 6, 2014 at 5:11 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Does not having sex stops someone from living? What about masturbation?
Elaborate, on second thought please don't
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:15 pm
(October 6, 2014 at 5:05 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 6, 2014 at 5:04 pm)ShaMan Wrote: @C4RM5...
Jesus did NOT say... "Go, and cause others not to sin."
Jesus DID say... "Go, and sin no more."
What do you mean, I honestly hope that I am not causing others to sin...
You missed a word...
Jesus addresses your behavior, and instructs you not to judge the actions of others. You'd be well advised not to judge others (people who have abortions) if you hope to actually have an authentic relationship with your god.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm
(October 6, 2014 at 5:12 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: We don't live in a perfect world, but if we did no one would need an abortion. To me it seems a bit self centred. If a woman doesn't want to feel uncomfortable for 9 months it is then perfectly legal to kill an unborn child.
Really? Did you really just say that? 'If a woman doesn't want to feel uncomfortable for 9 months'? Are you fucking stupid? Pregnancy can and does cause all sorts of problems with the human body, during and after. Chronic problems. And some women today still die from childbirth. And you have the fucking arrogance to just say 'uncomfortable'. Ignorant prick.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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