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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 3, 2017 at 12:17 pm
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Is that the short of shooting where you hit the mexican you were aiming at, rather than some random passersby? 
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 11:04 am
Targets only. What is done beyond that is up to free will and god's plan I guess.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 12:25 pm
And the fucking NRA.
Go back through this thread and you'll see lots of gun-range accidents. Humans are innately careless. They are no less careless with guns than they are with anything else. The thing is, if you put your car keys down and a two-year old picks them up the results are rarely as bad as when you do the same thing with your gun.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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It;s true, gun safety - over any extended period of time or repeated use, is more an environmental issue than a skill issue. You will make a mistake, eventually - a malfunction will occur, eventually. The only way to get through either safely, or as safely as can be expected - is to be in the right place with the right gear when it happens.
I'm willing to bet that this describes a vanishingly small fraction of a percent of gun users and issues. Collectively, some pretty dumb shit is done.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 9:28 pm
(August 4, 2017 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And the fucking NRA.
Go back through this thread and you'll see lots of gun-range accidents. Humans are innately careless. They are no less careless with guns than they are with anything else. The thing is, if you put your car keys down and a two-year old picks them up the results are rarely as bad as when you do the same thing with your gun.
Dumb shit happens when a two year old grabs a bottle of whiskey. Should we ban alcohol?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 9:34 pm
Yes. Far more destructive than marijuana.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm
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People are killed with knives. Should we ban those as well?
What about ropes? Many a man's been hung. Shall we ban those?
A dude shot a lion and people blamed the man. A dude shoots anything else and people blame the gun.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 10:02 pm
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(August 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm)Court Jester Wrote: People are killed with knives. Should we ban those as well?
What about ropes? Many a man's been hung. Shall we ban those?
A dude shot a lion and people blamed the man. A dude shoots anything else and people blame the gun.
You know, I've heard these arguments over and over (you forgot my favorite one - "cars kill people, should we ban cars too??" lol ) but they are simply not compelling arguments for making sure that anyone and everyone, including convicted felons and minors under 18, have access to guns, which are an instrument with one and only one purpose - to kill and/ or maim.
You'll have to come up with a better argument than the ones above, I'm afraid. Good luck!
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 10:07 pm
Yes, he's nothing if not redundant.
I'll tell you what. If you put a knife down on your kitchen counter and it suddenly flies through the wall of the neighboring apartment and kills the tenant I'll agree that those knives should be banned.
You see, guns are designed for one thing. To fire bullets. I suppose if you are a true ammosexual you can use one as an ersatz hammer or a really expensive paperweight but for the most part assholes who want guns plan to use them to fire bullets. I would agree with the statement "guns don't kill people....bullets kill people" but I don't think that helps you much.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
August 4, 2017 at 10:23 pm
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But there is no better argument and there shouldn't be.
People drive cars into people and the person is to blame, not the car or the reasons as to why. Snorting coke kills people and the social structure or the person is to blame, not the coke or the circumstances that lead to the addiction. People get stabbed and the person is to blame, not the knife or the reasons that lead up to the situation. Robbin Williams strangled him self and the mental disorder and Robin Williams was to blame, not the rope or the reasons as to why the issue went unchecked to that extent. Planes flew into the World Trade Center and the people were to blame, not the planes or airport security. People die from curable diseases and the insurance companies are to blame, not the over all medical structure that prohibits adequate care for all outside of the insurance companies.
I have more fire arms than most gun shops. I've not used one on another human since the military, barring a minor intruder issue that didn't require a trigger to be pulled. Glad I had it though. I also have a 14 yr old and a 17 yr old that can use them safely and effectively.
I see the anti gun side, but it's a ridiculously narrow minded view that is out to fix the symptom and never even fathoms the root cause. It's easier to point to a clear symptom and strip people's abilities than dive into the root cause of the issue. Guns are not the root cause of the issue, social issues are. And there's deeper issues to be addressed in everything else I listed above as well. People are just too lazy or simple minded to see or deal with them. Get rid of the legal guns and the problems will still persist in new and exciting was.
(August 4, 2017 at 10:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'll tell you what. If you put a knife down on your kitchen counter and it suddenly flies through the wall of the neighboring apartment and kills the tenant I'll agree that those knives should be banned.
But fire arms don't just go off on their own. See, simple minded irrational argument man.
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