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Problems with Christian Church
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RE: Problems with Christian Church
(August 21, 2015 at 2:06 am)robvalue Wrote: I don't get the idea that religious businesses should be given tax exempt status in order to keep out of politics.

Doesn't cut it for me. The religious businesses should keep out of politics anyway. What other businesses have to be paid off in order to not explicitly preach against the government and try to get their own ideas made into law?

Giving specific "large enough" religions tax breaks amounts to the government sponsoring those religions, for no good reason, while refusing to do the same for very small ones.

As for charity work, the rules for tax exemption should be exactly the same. Are other charities allowed to overtly preach marketing messages with no relevance to the charity work they are providing?

Religion, as always, wants special treatment. I don't know if the tax exemption will ever be removed. Maybe one day, when religion has finally lost its hold. Right now, even the politicians who want it gone are probably aware of the mass shitstorm it would cause.

They have the tax exemption, and still they don't keep out of politics. The non-endorsement of political candidates is a meaningless stipulation when it is still they who have written the laws which have oppressed minorities, women, and all who disbelieve their cruel, asinine nonsense.

(August 21, 2015 at 2:18 am)Randy Carson Wrote:
(August 21, 2015 at 12:57 am)NoFaith2Burn4 Wrote: Your patron saint Peter was a murderous thug. So were the majority of his successor popes, up through the 20th Century.

I see.

Quote:You still haven't answered the question on what Lot did when a stranger came to his house, seeking asylum from a murderous mob. You haven't addressed that question because you know how inconveniently shameful downright despicable the behavior of the most holy man of his generation, who had the favor of his god truly was.

You asked in another thread, and I responded.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-35417-po...pid1027484


I asked that question along with four others in response to you taking the smug stance "Try me". If we are in a different thread now, it is only because you have carried this over accross threads. I will not click on your links, and you need to stop being a coward and print out your answer right hear, where the issue is addressed.
There are two types of ideas: there is fact, and there is non-fact. Facts are determined empirically, i.e, what the King James Version says verbatim is an empirical fact. That it doesn't represent a ghastly mountain of cruel bullshit is non-factual. Therefore, please don't waste other people's precious time trying to spin Bullshit Mountain as gold! Facepalm
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Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by vorlon13 - August 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Angrboda - August 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Whateverist - August 21, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 19, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by *Deidre* - August 19, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 19, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 19, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Valkyrie - August 19, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 19, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 20, 2015 at 1:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by jiffy - August 20, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Kingpin - August 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 20, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Jenny A - August 20, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by LastPoet - August 20, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Ayen - August 20, 2015 at 12:46 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 1:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by drfuzzy - August 20, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Kingpin - August 20, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 20, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 20, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 21, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Iroscato - August 21, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 20, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 12:57 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 2:18 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by drfuzzy - August 21, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fake Messiah - August 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Valkyrie - August 20, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 21, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by NoFaith2Burn4 - August 21, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Homeless Nutter - August 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 22, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by vorlon13 - August 22, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Lemonvariable72 - August 21, 2015 at 2:23 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Minimalist - August 21, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 21, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Bob Kelso - August 21, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 21, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 21, 2015 at 6:15 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 21, 2015 at 6:26 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 23, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Redbeard The Pink - August 24, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Esquilax - August 24, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Lemonvariable72 - August 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 24, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 24, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 24, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by dyresand - August 24, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 24, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 25, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 25, 2015 at 4:24 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 28, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 25, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 25, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Longhorn - August 25, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 28, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by dyresand - August 25, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Whateverist - August 25, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by rexbeccarox - August 25, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by ForsakenHeretic - August 25, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by MTL - August 26, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by abaris - August 29, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Problems with Christian Church - by Randy Carson - August 29, 2015 at 2:39 pm

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