(September 1, 2015 at 11:41 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(September 1, 2015 at 11:31 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: A punishment cast by God, is what I said.
<sigh>
And yet your church said:
Quote:612 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"613 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"
That is STILL in the official teachings.
What changed? God decided to pick up a phone after 2000 years and informed the Funny-hats, that - no, he won't be personally condemning anyone? Why now?
Let me ask you a question, does a judge put law breakers in jail? Here's what I believe, they break the law by choice, they are caught and brought before a judge, if found guilty they are sentenced to jail, did the judge sentence them, no the law they broke did, the one they broke by choice. They chose to break the law and chose to do the time all in one instant of stupidity.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.