Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist

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Nice non answer to who/what made the god/other simulation/mind. Where did the "necessary mind" come from? How did it come into being?

No direct answer again to the hypothetical, off on another tangent. Now your stating that it's not being observed so it doesn't exist. I think your last tangent was IV not functioning.

Lets try one last time. Add the following to the past hypothetical description: You are in the room, you are conscious and can see the IV. You are observing the IV fluid drip and can see it flow into your vein. You can feel your heart beating and know that your circulatory system is functioning and the fluid is being dispersed through your body. The question again, "Because the contents/chemical make up of the IV depends on your minds perception (and this can only based on what you were told), do you recover no matter what is in the IV?"

by necessary I mean there was never a point where it did not exist. it didn't 'come' from anywhere, it's always been.

I really don't know how you think i'm being indirect with the IV hypothetical... I told you exactly what is going on with the IV when you're not observing it. is that not what you asked?

no, you don't recover no matter what's in the IV. physical interactions still have a consistent behavior, the contents of materials doesn't change because the person observing it is unaware what those contents are. so if someone puts the wrong stuff in the IV and leaves you in the room, it will still have the predictable effects of putting that substance into the patients system with an IV. the contents don't depend on your perception, rather their materialistic behavior depends on your perception. and that's only to the extent of whether the matter is being observed or not

"It's always been" sounds like the same old god argument to me. Your putting forward the concept, now it's up to you to prove.

"no, you don't recover no matter what's in the IV". Not true. You still recover is it's glucose, that one of the no matter what's.

"physical interactions still have a consistent behavior" Physical interactions are an action of matter, not an action of the mind perceiving matter. Therefore matter exists outside the minds perception.

You can continue with the rest here, I'm through. I find your logic flawed.